butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That wasn't directed at you, it was at all sorts of you idiots.
Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags
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"Really cheap" still needs more money than I could easily get hold of in any way which I'd be comfortable with or capable of. Also, in my case, you forget that I'd have to factor in the cost of either dumping VP on his parents or paying gods know how many agency workers to do what I usually do.
That raises the amount to be found by at least another £1,000. And, when I got back, yes, I could sell that stuff for far more than I paid out for it; however, it'd be docked pound for pound from my benefits and VP's, not to mentions disqualifying VP from free prescriptions. How do you like my odds of turning an easy profit?
Check your privilege - of being male, of mobility etc.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
About £5 on the train. It would certainly be interesting to chat to some ordinary Egyptians about what's going on. Think I'll leave it for a while though.
That wasn't directed at you, it was more like a scream into the abyss.
Hang on a second, you guys went to Berlin I believe?
You have no idea how long it took to find the money for that or sort out the logistics. Cairo isn't feasible (nor anywhere else 3rd world).
Fair enough. I did specify that we were discussing an able-bodied, single young man here...
You can fuck right off.
EDIT I'm a single, able-bodied young man, and getting the bus to Huddersfield instead of begging one of my friends for a lift seems like an outrageous extravegance, never mind going to fucking Cairo. I've been living on a £700 tax rebate, not even the dole, since the New Year, and that's got to last me until I can find a job. £200 might as well be £2,000 or £20,000 for me right now.
No, but I have seen the inside of a Turkish prison...
I understand that, but how long will it be until you find a job, assuming you're willing to travel anywhere?
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
You do know firky isn't in the best of health right now, don't you, hence the comment I made earlier about medical preparations? Sometimes it isn't *just* about finding the money however easy you may think that is.
Firky may be mobile, single, young, and male, but you've forgotten that he's still recovering from a major operation.
Also, how refreshingly unexpected of you to cite an example who is assumed to be hale, pale, and male. I had hoped for better from you.
Define "anywhere". Define where you personally would draw the line. Assume that you have no social capital; no favours you can call in, no wealthy or well to do relatives, no useful contacts, and nothing you could easily sell to raise enough cash in a hurry.
No, I didn't know that, and I'm sorry to hear it. Get well soon Firky...
If you did then you'd understand why your "£200 is fuck all" shtick get's the reaction it does. There is no act too demeaning, vile or humiliating at this point in time that I wouldn't consider doing it for £200. Try me.
Willing to travel? yes. Able to travel? Not necessarily. I don't drive, I live in an isolated part of an isolated valley which doesn't have particularly good public transport links. I can get to Huddersfield by bus, but not those other well-known employment hotspots, where they're crying out for more unemployed young people to fill all the available jobs, Wakefield or Barnsley. I can get to Holmfirth by bus, but even if I stood busking in the middle of Holmfirth humming the Last of the Summer Wine theme tune I'd never make £200. Trust me. Leeds and Machester would be a round trip of like £30 ish, which if you're on the dole means half your weekly income or currently for me around 10% of all my money in the world. Which isn't really my money, it's all just overdraft, and it's money they want back and keep sending my threatening letters saying how they're just gonna start lowering it regardless of what I do. In such a situation can you see how someone talking about £200 as if it's nothing might be slightly irritating?
Oh god what am I doing even fucking replying you fucking troll
Well "I personally" wouldn't draw the line anywhere, having lived and worked on four continents. Emigration's the obvious and traditional solution to the problems people are having in today's UK.
No ta, I believe you.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
And this, it comes to this. Thanks all.
I never thought I'd say this and it brings me no pleasure to do so, but fuck off Dwyer. I'd draw the line at a 90 minute journey on public transport.
I'm not saying emigration's a good thing, please note.
I'm saying it's the "obvious and traditional solution." Meaning historically and empirically, not ethically or even pragmatically.
Which it is, isn't it?
Fair enough.
Emigration from the UK is out if you have to factor in medical costs or a disability, trust me on this.
I used to get the bus to college, two hours in the mornings and 90 minutes in the evening (less traffic), I don't know how the fuck I did it for two years to be honest. Soul destroying and to add insult to injury my A-levels were really hard!
Yeah I know. Thing is I'm dead easy to troll coz I get carried away like a fucking child - and I'm at a point where "oh he's young" doesn't really cut it as an excuse.
But yes, lets move on and get back to picking the peanuts out of Laurie Penny's twitter excretions.
She'll be gutted that the last however many pages haven't been about her.
Really?
A lot of Americans with chronic illness retire to Mexico, precisely because their disability costs are far lower there. I'm sure Brits could do the same. As long as you can physically make it to the border, obviously. But they don't even check your passport there, and no doctor would ever ask for ID, so I don't see why not.
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