Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[equationgirl]

Here ya go: CPD has a website for all your blagging needs

copliker : comrade, surely PD could use this to our advantage?PD could offer CPD courses on all aspects of the works' bomb making

 

[SpineyNorman]

We could run a CPD course that explains the productivity gains working by the workers clock can offer. Obviously we'll leave out the part about it actually making you lose profits by altering the consciousness of your workers, leading to all out indefinite strike action and stuff, or the way it subtly alters all social structures, accelerating the inevitable march towards communism. I think it's a goer and may even cause a revolution as a convenient by-product

 

[sihhi]

It's for people like medics or social workers who are working in a field where your original training is not going to be good enough for a lifetime in work. They're supposed to get a certain number of points a year to prove they're keeping up to date in their field.

So, each and every meaningless crappy meeting vying for attention amongst all the other meaningless crappy meetings applies for as many CPD points as it can possibly justify in order to attract people to their meaningless events. And meaningless events are a great place to hobnob with like-minded ladder-climbers whilst listening to some pretentious wankers droning on about the latest unproven theory you can implement in your shitty practice without giving it a moment's thought.

It can be used intelligently, and to force employers to give time for genuine CPD. But it is easily abused. As evidenced above.

It's also for teachers of all sorts and even nursery workers.

My guess is this talk will be CPD for the teaching PhD students.

 

[The39thStep]

Would this CPD stuff be suitable for Captain Hurrah?

 

[ymu]

It's also for teachers of all sorts and even nursery workers.

My guess is this talk will be CPD for the teaching PhD students.

Yes. It's for just about every type of professional.

Apart from academics. I think.

 

[sihhi]

Well, yes. It's for just about every type of professional.

Apart from academics. I think.

It used to be called training but that was considered not separate enough from rote workers.

So now teachers often get CPD - management-imposed "discussion points", and admin staff get training - management-imposed "discussion points".

 

[Captain Hurrah]

Would this CPD stuff be suitable for Captain Hurrah?

?

 

[sihhi]

Right, I am not turning up if that is the case. What about the SWP's Marxism , does that qualify?

Skegness used to qualify but Marxism is now a non-CPD compulsory training event.

 

[ymu]

Cheers. I will get Discokermit to fill it in.

Wonder if MPs can use CPD. I bet loads of them would blag them over to their second main jobs. There's sites you can email-shot the lot of them, I think.

 

[ymu]

Skegness used to qualify but Marxism is now a non-CPD compulsory training event.

We need a dislike button.

 

[sihhi]

From https://twitter.com/PennyRed/status/293114881559908353

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed
In Dublin next week. I've been told to go to a place called....Panty Bar?

29m Scarlett Nymph ‏@scarlettnymph
@PennyRed Are you coming here for business or pleasure?

25m Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed
@scarlettnymph for reporting. But I'm sure I'll have time for a bit of fun

Laurie Penny will be reporting on one of Dublin's smart gay nightclubs, quite central close to the Liffey.

Here's what pisses me off about complaints about people looking at LP's social media. LP uses social media to promote an image of a thrill-seeking, close to the bone revolutionary bringing the word of the alternatives to the 'masses' in the Guardian/New Statesman (epater le bourgeoisie) - social media is, in part, how LP does it.
If you ignore the public twitter instagram stuff, you're ignoring what's being cultivated. At times it's not too dissimilar from a musician like Olly Murs tweeting people his tour itinerary, length of his stay, so people can tweet him what to do in their home town, although there are important differences.

 

[The39thStep]

From https://twitter.com/PennyRed/status/293114881559908353


Laurie Penny will be reporting on one of Dublin's smart gay nightclubs, quite central close to the Liffey.

Here's what pisses me off about complaints about people looking at LP's social media. LP uses social media to promote an image of a thrill-seeking, close to the bone revolutionary bringing the word of the alternatives to the 'masses' in the Guardian/New Statesman (epater le bourgeoisie) - social media is, in part, how LP does it.
If you ignore the public twitter instagram stuff, you're ignoring what's being cultivated. At times it's not too dissimilar from a musician like Olly Murs tweeting people his tour itinerary, length of his stay, so people can tweet him what to do in their home town, although there are important differences.

Laurie Penny can sing?

 

[Steel Icarus]

Laurie Penny can sing?

She's a dab hand at the Internationale, so I hear

 

[Brixton Hatter]

Owen Jones wants a new 'movement' on the left, but he can't even get a workers' breakfast of porridge together

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...ft-to-counter-capitalisms-crisis-8459099.html

Owen Jones ‏@OwenJones84
So far today I've learned I can't make porridge and my right-wing critics can't read.
Details

 

[Random]

Owen Jones wants a new 'movement' on the left, but he can't even get a workers' breakfast of porridge together

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...ft-to-counter-capitalisms-crisis-8459099.html

Owen Jones ‏@OwenJones84
So far today I've learned I can't make porridge and my right-wing critics can't read.
Details

Every cook can govern!

... oh... shit.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Yeah...sorry about that...wasn't sure if you were havin a go or not and, unfortunately, I've always been a get-your-retaliation-in-first type...dunno why, it's never done me any favours.
As for point 2, I can see that but my issue is not with feminism per se or transgender politics, it's with identity politics in a larger sense, which...and I know this is to some extent a generalisation...seems to be the preserve of the middle-class pseudo-left who appear to think we live in a 'post-class' era, and lumps me in with the chairman of Goldman Sachs as a straight white ultra privileged cis male. That fucks me off cos it's a ridiculous state of affairs and the categorisation is patently useless since it lacks any coherence with reality. In fact, I can't see any purpose to it other than to allow the likes of Laurie Penny to write shit like "we on the left have always...." as though the 'we' placed her within some unbroken continuity of working class struggle. In this sense, identity politics is a cynical vehicle of appropriation.

La Pennionara actually mentioned class in a non post-class way in friday's New Statesman.

 

[killer b]

how is it possible to not be able to make porridge?

 

[DotCommunist]

you'd have to be some sort of cack-handed fool to not be able to boil some oats in milk ffs

 

[DotCommunist]

pinch of salt obvs

 

[ViolentPanda]

Useless.

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed
Hey Twitter, help me out. I'm looking for lectures and documentaries on the Paris Commune available online. And related things...

She should just get herself a copy of "On the Paris Commune". It was written by some liberal bloke, I think. Howard Marks?

 

[DotCommunist]

sticking dried fruit in it is the mark of the cunt though

 

[Brixton Hatter]

I think Owen Jones was using 100% milk, instead of the workers' ratio of 50:50 milk and water, thereby displaying his petit bourgeois tendencies

 

[ViolentPanda]

sticking dried fruit in it is the mark of the cunt though

What about chopped sausage?

 

[cesare]

I think Owen Jones was using 100% milk, instead of the workers' ratio of 50:50 milk and water, thereby displaying his petit bourgeois tendencies

Petit bourgeois use all water, HACTUALLY

 

[ViolentPanda]

I think Owen Jones was using 100% milk, instead of the workers' ratio of 50:50 milk and water, thereby displaying his petit bourgeois tendencies

I wonder what Proletarian Democracy's position(s) is/are on the different milks? Is full-fat a bourgeois affectation, or a necessary part of the workers' diet, to build strength in them for the revolution? Is fully-skimmed a capitalist plot to deprive the workers of adipose deposits?

 

[butchersapron]

I thought the line that was milk is murder had already been promulgated last week?

 

[goldenecitrone]

Heifer knows I'm miserable now.

 

[DotCommunist]

I wonder what Proletarian Democracy's position(s) is/are on the different milks? Is full-fat a bourgeois affectation, or a necessary part of the workers' diet, to build strength in them for the revolution? Is fully-skimmed a capitalist plot to deprive the workers of adipose deposits?

skimmed is theft, reminiscent of Thatchers theft- same price for less of the baic fat needed to fuel the brawny arms of the proletariat.

Also amphetamine is a capitalist plot to erode your teeth and force you into the uncaring arms of failed doctors

 

[DotCommunist]

What about chopped sausage?

savoury porridge is hunnish

 

[ViolentPanda]

I thought the line that was milk is murder had already been promulgated last week?

It was, but then someone realised that Morrissey had said it, and got worried about PD's credibility being damaged, so it was blamed on "subversive elements that have since been liquidated".