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There are two questions. First, why do people choose from such a narrow range of clothes? Second, why do they attempt to erase the passages of their lives by making the young old and the old young?

Well, in both cases, they are eliminating distinctions. And, in both cases, they are afraid. [...] To be completely outside fashion is to send the message: 'I am nothing like any of you.' To send that message is dangerous: it courts loneliness, an especially frightening prospect. If your clothes don't make sense to people, then they proclaim that you are beyond sense: you are illegible. And that means no sex, no friendship, nothing. [...]

The elision of the ages, meanwhile, is also a response to the fear of difference. For the old, appearing young is a way of saying: 'I am not a person who is nearer death.' The young, who are still under parental influence, are prematurely aged to reinforce this tranquillising thought. [...]

At this point, the connection with the paedophilia demonstrations should be clear. At the most obvious level, the cause - like the non-choice of clothes - provides a crude unity in the midst of incomprehensible diversity. But, at a deeper level, fashion is now an aspect of the excessive glorification of childhood. There is, in effect, only one fashion. It changes every season out of financial necessity, but only marginally. This one fashion is that of the early teen, and it is embraced from babyhood to senility. People want to become children precisely because of their glorification of childhood as the only virtuous state.

In a world in which there are, increasingly, no borders, frontiers, walls or restrictions, people will be driven to construct their own. They find themselves belonging nowhere, and so they invent forms of belonging. These forms are crude: rather than new hierarchies of age, everybody is made to belong to one age; rather than a multiplicity of consumption, everybody consumes the same. Crudest of all are the anti-paedophile demonstrations: acts of social unification based on persecution; mob politics that treats law and reason with contempt. [...]

People don't know they are doing this because they think they are free. They think they are free because they are told they are free, and their apparent choices are glorified as the will of the people. But the will of the people turns out to be either a dull uniformity or, in the case of the paedophilia hysteria, a vengeful, anarchic irrationality. A baby with an earring, a ten-year-old in a boob tube, a pensioner in a shell suit - it is the end of difference, the impossibility of imagination, the loss of sense, the abandonment of aspiration, the end, not the beginning, of choice and, worst of all, the abject failure to engage rationally with evil.

In 1984, O'Brien tells Winston Smith that, if he wants to imagine the future, he should picture a boot smashing forever into a face. I say: if you want to imagine the future, picture a gang of identically dressed toddlers baying for blood that is, quite possibly, yours.
 
“Bryan Appleyard, you’re a clever guy…” Jeremy Paxman
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This is a corker:

Couple of us were asking Jonathon May-Bowles about his love for a guide on, "how to talk to trans people" - preaching to the converted etc. When he came up with this beaut:


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@henrypath firky anyway, I'll leave you to your white, male, cis, middle class frustrations. Have a great day.

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“Bryan Appleyard, you’re a clever guy…” Jeremy Paxman
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When did Jeremy Paxman say that?


He used to be more popular as a left-liberal columnist then compared to now. He has under 3,500 followers on twitter, but sill reports this kind of detail:


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Went to see Quartet in Fakenham. Audience was older than the cast, like watching Django in a cinema full of slaves.
 
ever read paxmans book on 'the English'? its full of little nuggets about history and so on but class struggle doesn't get a look in. No diggers, no peasants revolt, nothing. Just an eternal village green perspective
 
ever read paxmans book on 'the English'? its full of little nuggets about history and so on but class struggle doesn't get a look in. No diggers, no peasants revolt, nothing. Just an eternal village green perspective

Paxman's an arsehole anyway. An even lower form of life than the absolutely stomach-turning Stephen Fry.
 
ever read paxmans book on 'the English'? its full of little nuggets about history and so on but class struggle doesn't get a look in. No diggers, no peasants revolt, nothing. Just an eternal village green perspective

No, but it doesn't surprise me. If you've watched Ian Hislop's history of British emotions and the stiff upper lip. 'There was no violence in the General Strike and police playing football with strikers was the norm, back then there was a stiff upper lip' (happened once).

Here is Aaronovitch mate-y interviewing Gove, wifi provided so people who own smart laptops can tweet away as it goes on:

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ever read paxmans book on 'the English'? its full of little nuggets about history and so on but class struggle doesn't get a look in. No diggers, no peasants revolt, nothing. Just an eternal village green perspective
In that sense it's entirely accurate for who he's talking for and to then. Something that you (well me) get off those pieces sihhi posted is just how strongly they feel that this is their country, this is their society the rest of us are just here to make up the numbers, to do the stuff that allow them to do the really important stuff. Almost like they imagine they are in a classical greek polis and they are the citizens - the only ones entitled to vote, to deliberate on public policy, to construct and participate in culture.
 
In that sense it's entirely accurate for who he's talking for and to then. Something that you (well me) get off those pieces sihhi posted is just how strongly they feel that this is their country, this is their society the rest of us are just here to make up the numbers, to do the stuff that allow them to do the really important stuff. Almost like they imagine they are in a classical greek polis and they are the citizens - the only ones entitled to vote, to deliberate on public policy, to construct and participate in culture.


yes and they re-enforce it by these sort of books, articles and talks. An ongoing process of both revisionism and reproduction in which the values of their class are reproduced for the future and stamped upon the past.

and the rest of us can go fucking whistle.
 
ever read paxmans book on 'the English'? its full of little nuggets about history and so on but class struggle doesn't get a look in. No diggers, no peasants revolt, nothing. Just an eternal village green perspective

It's fucking horrible, it is "us" and "them". That's about it.
 
This is another classic - at the same awards ceremony where Helen Lewis collected the awards from the boss of Twitter Europe - on right is 'use capitalist advertising for good' Julia Hobsbawm.

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