Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[barney_pig]

Technically what was posted up does not prove she was lying, she may have changed her mind between saying she was going to vote lib dem and the time she voted. Is there anything more conclusive out there?

there is her triumphalist cheer at the result

http://pennyred.blogspot.co.uk/2010/05/people-have-mumbled.html

The people have mumbled!


Nothing can take the shiteating grin off my face today.

There will be no Tory majority government. Labour kicked back. The Lib Dems held the line, although they didn't make the gains they hoped. The worst-case scenario here is a hobbled Tory minority dragging its bloated, stinking carcase around the Commons until progressives throw enough rocks at it to make it squeal out another election. Yes, they can and probably will do some damage. No, it won't be as bad as it might have been.

Other bloody brilliant things: Greens get their first MP in Brighton, with party Leader Caroline Lucas taking the seat. UKIP and BNP vote surge isn't as high as predicted, and Griffin suffers a punishing defeat in Barking. Homophobic Tory hate preacher Philippa Stroud lost to the Lib Dems, as did nepotite toerag Anuzziata Rees-Mogg (although her little brother Jacob, the one with the nanny, won his Somerset seat). UKIP and the BNP turned in almost no votes in Wales and Scotland. The one tragic loss in all of this is that heroic pro-choice, pro-science, rationalist MP Dr Evan Harris lost his seat in Oxford after a boundary change. He'll be back, though. As will the left.

The people have mumbled; faced with the prospect of Torygeddon, the people have stammered. This is not how enfranchisement looks, but it's enough to have made David Cameron very, very angry and, you know, that's fine by me.

The Tory day of glory is soured, and there will be no 1997 moment for the Conservative party whilst I'm young, although this is enough of a gotcha moment to help the left get its goddamn boots on and remember what it's for. We've got a long, hard fight ahead of us. But we knew that anyway. And the beast coming over the hill just started to look a lot sillier. Let's stay a bit cheerful.

 

[butchersapron]

Technically what was posted up does not prove she was lying, she may have changed her mind between saying she was going to vote lib dem and the time she voted. Is there anything more conclusive out there?

She claimed to have changed her mind just as she was marking the ballot. Handy that.

 

[rekil]

As mentioned previously, this is from march 2010.

I'm already planning to use my own vote to assist one of the liberal PPCs in Leyton and Wanstead.

 

[emanymton]

She claimed to have changed her mind just as she was marking the ballot. Handy that.

Thank you, but just the fact she even considered voting lib dem is enough to condemn her anyway.

 

[butchersapron]

She was still urging it on mayday of all days, 5 days before the election.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I wonder what she was claiming on May 6th... I bet there's a stray tweet somewhere...

 

[bluestreak]

'Privilege' speak is back.

What do people make of this?

Liberals not anarchists are trying to import this from the USA. WWD means women with disabilities by the way.

tbh she has a point, although its completely lost in her own bullshit. we need a certain amount of identity empathy to move on - but not full on identity politics, iyswim.

 

[bluestreak]

everything she does is promoting already-privileged women. but you know, they spent four days in greece without being mugged.

 

[love detective]

she's on radio bubble today, not even close to seeing the irony in that one!

 

[articul8]

Paul Mason's tips for Journo's

 

[butchersapron]

Laura isn't up against "the tranquil consciousness of an effortless superiority." of oxbridge (for that is what it refers to) - she's an expression of it.

 

[butchersapron]

11. Join Workers Power.
12. Leave Workers Power.

 

[Idris2002]

11. Join Workers Power.
12. Leave Workers Power.

13. Use a typewriter while all around you process words.

 

[love detective]

14. A League of Nations should be set up to guarantee the political and territorial independence of all states.

 

[Idris2002]

15. The land of Mexico should be equally divided among its people.

 

[butchersapron]

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

 

[Idris2002]

17. The Milky bars are on me.

 

[DaveCinzano]

18. After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.

 

[frogwoman]

19. We offer peace and unity to all the neighboring states and their peoples, and invite them to
cooperate with the independent Jewish state for the common good of all.

 

[rekil]

20. The Leader of the plant makes the decisions for the employees and labourers in all matters concerning the enterprise, as far as they are regulated by this law. He is responsible for the well-being of the employees and labourers. The employees and labourers owe him faithfulness according to the principles of the factory community.

 

[Idris2002]

21.We place the cause of the Irish Republic under the protection of the Most High God, Whose blessing we invoke upon our arms, and we pray that no one who serves that cause will dishonour it by cowardice, inhumanity, or rapine.

 

[DaveCinzano]

22. When you return from a scout, and come near our forts, avoid the usual roads, and avenues thereto, lest the enemy should have headed you, and lay in ambush to receive you, when almost exhausted with fatigues.

 

[DaveCinzano]

23. And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.

 

[rekil]

24. It is only natural that when the capable intelligences of a nation, which are always in a minority, are regarded only as of the same value as all the rest, then genius, capacity, the value of personality are slowly subjected to the majority and this process is then falsely named the rule of the people. For this is not rule of the people, but in reality the rule of stupidity, of mediocrity, of half-heartedness, of cowardice, of weakness, and of inadequacy.

 

[butchersapron]

25. Separation is the alpha and omega of the spectacle. The institutionalization of the social division of labor in the form of class divisions had given rise to an earlier, religious form of contemplation: the mythical order with which every power has always camouflaged itself. Religion justified the cosmic and ontological order that corresponded to the interests of the masters, expounding and embellishing everything their societies could not deliver. In this sense, all separate power has been spectacular. But this earlier universal devotion to a fixed religious imagery was only a shared acknowledgment of loss, an imaginary compensation for the poverty of a concrete social activity that was still generally experienced as a unitary condition. In contrast, the modern spectacle depicts what society could deliver, but in so doing it rigidly separates what is possible from what is permitted. The spectacle keeps people in a state of unconsciousness as they pass through practical changes in their conditions of existence. Like a factitious god, it engenders itself and makes its own rules. It reveals itself for what it is: an autonomously developing separate power, based on the increasing productivity resulting from an increasingly refined division of labor into parcelized gestures dictated by the independent movement of machines, and working for an ever-expanding market. In the course of this development, all community and all critical awareness have disintegrated; and the forces that were able to grow by separating from each other have not yet been reunited.

 

[frogwoman]

26a. In the midst of wanton aggression, we yet call upon the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to
return to the ways of peace and play their part in the development of the State, with full and equal
citizenship and due representation in its bodies and institutions - provisional or permanent.

 

[Idris2002]

26b. Under which king, Besonian? Speak, or die.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

27. Don't leave you valuables in a bag in the care of a random stranger.

 

[frogwoman]

28. The USSR steadfastly pursues a Leninist policy of peace and stands for strengthening of the security of nations and broad international co-operation.

The foreign policy of the USSR is aimed at ensuring international conditions favourable for building communism in the USSR, safeguarding the state interests of the Soviet Union, consolidating the positions of world socialism, supporting the struggle of peoples for national liberation and social progress, preventing wars of aggression, achieving universal and complete disarmament, and consistently implementing the principle of the peaceful coexistence of states with different social systems.In the USSR war propaganda is banned.​

 

[Idris2002]

29. Unexpected item in the bagging area.