littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
YesWould going and marrying an IS member be regarded as supporting a terrorist organisation or whatever the offence is called here in England and Wales.
YesWould going and marrying an IS member be regarded as supporting a terrorist organisation or whatever the offence is called here in England and Wales.
Others with more regional knowledge will doubtless be able to comment, but I suspect that a major problem for the UK state is deciding on the degree of engagement with those holding the 20 or so UK nationals reported to be held in the displaced persons camps of DFNS. Extradition obviously presupposes some form of mutual state recognition.Well if you agree that, great. So far the state seems to be saying that we're not going to lift a finger to help her and if she arrives in the UK under her own steam she'll be arrested and possibly prosecuted. All of which is perfectly fine by me.
Exactly, I've not consciously sought to portray her as the Madonna, but I have tried to challenge the whoring of her.
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I’ve missed those posts. Please link to a couple where this ‘whoring’ has been done.
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I’ve missed those posts. Please link to a couple where this ‘whoring’ has been done.
Oh I see, it’s you white knighting.You could start with gentlegreen and his "Jihadi factory" comment.
It's a reference to the Madonna/Whore dichotomy: the idea that women are either virginally pure or totally depraved.
He didn't call her a whore though and he only took stick for that because of the way he formed it. If we're honest these women are treated exactly as baby production facilities (factories) by IS. Their sole purpose is to provide sexual services to the murderers, do the washing and cooking, and to produce babies. Or do you reckon it's a love thing?You could start with gentlegreen and his "Jihadi factory" comment.
It's a reference to the Madonna/Whore dichotomy: the idea that women are either virginally pure or totally depraved.
Any clearer above now
gentlegreen
It was that almost as much as being unfazed by heads in bins.
"Had two die on me, let's immediately produce another baby jihadist..."
Thursday at 1:31 PM
A veritable jihadist factory.
I hope this child gets taken into care.
Any clearer above now
Trump is now weighing in to demand that Britain and other European countries to "take back" ISIS fighters, which probably makes cases like Shamima Begum a bit more of an actual news story.
Trump urges European allies to take back hundreds of ISIS fighters captured in Syria
Although for what it's worth, while I don't think acting like these people are not our problem is much of a starting point, and certainly don't think making them stateless is a solution, I also don't think we should be hugely receptive to Trump demanding we put them all in UK prisons.
As far as I can tell, it is only you who seems obsessed with 'whores' & 'sluts'.You could start with gentlegreen and his "Jihadi factory" comment.
It's a reference to the Madonna/Whore dichotomy: the idea that women are either virginally pure or totally depraved.
exactly. This is yet another bizarre turn on a frankly bizarre thread.He didn't call her a whore though and he only took stick for that because of the way he formed it. If we're honest these women are treated exactly as baby production facilities (factories) by IS. Their sole purpose is to provide sexual services for the murderers, do the washing and cooking, and to produce babies. Or do you reckon it's a love thing?
If anyone's treating the women as "whores" it's IS. Certainly nobody on this thread.
Perhaps they should all be handed over to the authorities in those countries they have committed the atrocities in.
Aren't these the same authorities that set up rape dungeons for dissidents in their prisons? In which case I'm skeptical that they would receive a fair hearing.
It's an absolute fucking mess, all round.
To be clear, do you believe that marrying an IS fighter and having babies was not part of the 'advert' from IS, and to which this person replied in the affirmative?
Do you then believe that given the decisions - not just the one decision she made at 15 - she's made since going to IS, and the attitudes she displays on film, do not make her, at the least, someone you won't be leaving your children with?
Perhaps they should all be handed over to the authorities in those countries they have committed the atrocities in.
As far as I can tell, it is only you who seems obsessed with 'whores' & 'sluts'.
I don't think gentlegreen comments were out of order as this was part of the deal in producing future fighters for the cause.
tim, you're really reaching with this idea that anyone's 'slut-shaming' her; whilst gentlegreen's comments may have been factually inaccurate and somewhat crass, recognising that a big part of the role of jihadi bride is to produce offspring isn't anything like calling her a 'whore'.
There either aren't any authorities - we're talking about disintegrating and failed states here - that's the point.
Deffo trolling now...He sees her as an unredeemable fallen woman
You don't think referring to her womb as a factory was out of order?
Oh thanks for pointing that out to me. I live in a cave!
He sees her as an unredeemable fallen woman
He sees her as an unredeemable fallen woman
I read that post, as him commenting on how IS sees their brides, not how he does, that's a big difference.