Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
We are not native Americans. There is no native America.
Yankee imperialism killed them both.
Proleterian Democrcay says yes to megatons - no to maris piper!
Workers' Girder! Getcher Workers Girder!
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We are not native Americans. There is no native America.
Yankee imperialism killed them both.
Proleterian Democrcay says yes to megatons - no to maris piper!
rekil
to menny cranks
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
You will never reach the mass consciousness of the working class with that kind of ultra-left ahistorical tittle-tattle. Have you forgotten the transitional method, comrade? Even the most advanced layers of the workforce are not ready to have their illusions shattered when they hear the tales of carrot-committed atrocities by ancient Romans. In order to reach the broadest sections of the proletariat we must be sensitive and not go beyond what their consciousness is ready for. So whereas now we speak of carrots and beetroots, as a bridge towards peas and mange-tout.
SpineyNorman
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You're all wrong. Root vegetables symbollically represent feudal ties to the land. Ties that produced a paternalistic cross class form of false consciousness. It is no coincidence that the East Asian countries where rice is the staple food have witnessed revolutions. Proper ones with purges, labour camps, long marches and that.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
I think you would do well to look to your own consciousness, as manifested in your ill conceived petty-bourgeois lust for mange tout, and leave the genuine partisans of class to make their own reckoning with faux working class spud.
Let self criticism and re-education be your watch words.
Louis MacNeice
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
Does this call for PD to do a re-evaluation of Gonzalo Thought; should we have moved heaven and earth for the chairman?
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
They were a counter-productive, sanguinary and extremely sectarian bunch, but the PCP-SL also pulled off one of the best visual stunts ever, when the Pope visited the country in 1985. Although they'd done something similar a few months before.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Well if by "heaven and earth" you mean this, then yes:
Himmel und Erde (English: Heaven and earth; in the Rhineland: Himmel un Ääd) is a traditional German dish most popular in the regions of the Rhineland, Westphalia, Lower Saxony and Silesia. The dish consists of black pudding, fried onions, and mashed potato with apple sauce. The dish has been known since the 18th century.
The name of the dish originates from the name of two of the main ingredients: the apples "of heaven" and the apples of "the Earth" (an old word for potatoes is Erdapfel (English: Earthapple), still today in the Rhenish dialect).
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Which was?
You may take the Shining Path if you wish but there is no future in the paper tiger of Maoism no matter how apparently 'reformed' it might be.
In response to the Pontiff's visit to Ayacucho, and a plea to the PCP-SL to end the violence, rebels destroyed with dynamite electricity pylons supplying power to Lima, plunging the capital into darkness. In time for the Pope's plane approaching the airport, a huge bonfire in the shape of a hammer and sickle was set ablaze for all to see on a nearby mountainside.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
In response to the Pontiff's visit to Ayacucho, and a plea to the PCP-SL to end the violence, rebels destroyed with dynamite electricity pylons supplying power to Lima, plunging the capital into darkness. In time for the Pope's plane approaching the airport, a huge bonfire in the shape of a hammer and sickle was set ablaze for all to see on a nearby mountainside.
Cool story, bro.
(No wondered Wojtyla hated Liberation Theology).
The Maoists appropriated or plagiarised Jose Carlos Mariategui, iirc.
barney_pig
Po-cha-na-quar-hip
cured by a king's touch apparently
The PCP-SL targeted them as well. Some inclined priests helped organise the peasant patrols later utilised as an auxiliary paramilitary force by the army against the Maoists.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Ah, interesting, I didn't know that.
Only Presidente Gonzalo, the Fourth Sword of Marxism, Guarantor of the Glorious Revolution and the New Peru was correct about everything.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Hobsbawm's greatest moment was perhaps described the Shining Path as "an unwanted gift to Peru from the University of Ayacucho".
Off the top of my head and being sketchy, in a bid to discredit liberation theology some more conservative-minded Catholics tried to link it to the Maoist insurgency.
They were bad, but there's been an awful lot of crap written about them, too. Being some kind of blood-thirsty millenarian movement of the Inkaic peasant masses is a load of shite.
The weakness of their chimerical People's War was exposed when the Peruvian army properly stepped in. Prior to that, you could call the highland areas they controlled places characterised by a long-rooted neglect by the government and coastal elite. That helped the spread of the insurgency in the early 1980s. Small bands of rebels fighting against rural police (also inadequately supported by the government) and local landowner bigwigs was relatively easy. Not so against heavily-armed troops with helicopters. As the early 1990s showed, they were never anywhere near 'strategic equilibrium,' to use their own jargon.
They were bad, but there's been an awful lot of crap written about them, too. Being some kind of blood-thirsty millenarian movement of the Inkaic peasant masses is a load of shite.
The weakness of their chimerical People's War was exposed when the Peruvian army properly stepped in. Prior to that, you could call the highland areas they controlled places characterised by a long-rooted neglect by the government and coastal elite. That helped the spread of the insurgency in the early 1980s. Small bands of rebels fighting against rural police (also inadequately supported by the government) and local landowner bigwigs was relatively easy. Not so against heavily-armed troops with helicopters. As the early 1990s showed, they were never anywhere near 'strategic equilibrium,' to use their own jargon.
rekil
to menny cranks
I thought I did but I don't and what's more I dunno where the book I confused it with is either. Crazy.
butchersapron
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A T.J Clark one maybe?
rekil
to menny cranks
I really don't know. I lost a load of unread pdfs and all sorts when I destroyed a laptop with coffee a while ago.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Liking the new Victory to Krishnan Guru-Murthy! theme.
Spoof post deleted. There are humourless people who might have believed this to be real.
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