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[DotCommunist]

This reminds me of a military General or some such, many years ago, extolling the virtues of the enhanced-radiation-low blast tactical nuclear bomb. Its use would enable, he said, the depopulation of an enemy area without damaging the buildings. (This is true but I have no references to hand!)

I fear however DotCommunist that your proposal might cause disagreement within the ranks of Proletarian Democracy. There may be the creation of a faction of splitters who would not want to actually kill most of the proletariat in order to achieve the survival of only the Vanguard. They would say that the Bomb should be seen as an instrument of fear in the Bourgeoisie and Capitalists and its usefulness ceases if it is detonated.

Tread carefully cmrd.

I want the people who are mine to survive the day. In that fatal blaze of uranium and anger I hope to keep mine safe, theres are certain cmrds and family members who have not earned the scouring, briefly experienced, event that is the nuclear holocaust. Too many will look up with irritation and say 'what the fuck is that, has some cunt detonated a nuclear bomb or what'. And they will die 0.2 seconds later, before they even formulate why the 'or what' could be.

camps not bombs. I'll split if you cunts cannot persuade me

 

[stuff_it]

How goes it with the prole dem crew?

 

[where to]

no humour section?

 

[Captain Hurrah]

NATO forces at command level knew seriously that if the Warsaw Pact mob steamed in 'battlefield nukes' would be the only way to hold them back

Not really. The USSR, particularly during Khrushchev's time in power, saw nuclear weapons as the way forward, with loads of funding going towards research and development, to the dismay of Soviet top brass not seeing money for new shiny machines and equipment for conventional warfare. Indeed, among other things, new battleships were built but then scrapped as the race was on to develop a Soviet intercontinental missile, and ones that could be launched from underground silos or from submarines, as they were behind the Americans with such a thing. That's one reason why the Soviet Union decided to take a gamble and use Cuba as a potential launchpad for their medium range missiles.

 

[Roadkill]

This is a brilliant thread.

 

[Nylock]

Can the worker's bomb appeal graphic go up and down in value with each successive publication? Maybe with a triumphant byline when it goes up and a thinly-veiled excuse for using the bomb fund for going on the piss (or something) when it decreases in value...

 

[phildwyer]

We can all share PD's hatred of corner shopkeepers who sell tooth-rotting, artery-hardening sweets to kids--some as young as six years old--but it is at best naive of them to ignore the racial undertones behind their campaign. At best.

 

[barney_pig]

Can the worker's bomb appeal graphic go up and down in value with each successive publication? Maybe with a triumphant byline when it goes up and a thinly-veiled excuse for using the bomb fund for going on the piss (or something) when it decreases in value...

each week the weekly worker has a special column commenting on the lack of financial contributions from readers by 'Robbie Rix' who takes great care in bemoaning the failure of the class to rally to the publication of the Party.
It is often comedy gold.

 

[SpineyNorman]

We can all share PD's hatred of corner shopkeepers who sell tooth-rotting, artery-hardening sweets to kids--some as young as six years old--but it is at best naive of them to ignore the racial undertones behind their campaign. At best.

We in OPD:CPT and BAS:TARD, in alliance with the IWBA, have no time for your bourgeois liberal identity politics. Read the IWBA's excellent article, "Multiculturalism and Shopkeeping: The Reactionary Consequences and how they can be Challenged" before it's too late!

 

[DotCommunist]

Not really. The USSR, particularly during Khrushchev's time in power, saw nuclear weapons as the way forward, with loads of funding going towards research and development, to the dismay of Soviet top brass not seeing money for new shiny machines and equipment for conventional warfare. Indeed, among other things, new battleships were built but then scrapped as the race was on to develop a Soviet intercontinental missile, and ones that could be launched from underground silos or from submarines, as they were behind the Americans with such a thing. That's one reason why the Soviet Union decided to take a gamble and use Cuba as a potential launchpad for their medium range missiles.

you had best hope you are not a man who wears glasses.

 

[Captain Hurrah]

?

 

[phildwyer]

We in OPD:CPT and BAS:TARD, in alliance with the IWBA, have no time for your bourgeois liberal identity politics. Read the IWBA's excellent article, "Multiculturalism and Shopkeeping: The Reactionary Consequences and how they can be Challenged" before it's too late!

I find the article profoundly disturbing. It makes no effort to distinguish between ordinary shopkeepers who occasionally sell a few packs of Juicy Fruit in order to keep their own children in sweets--and it's in shopkeeping culture to have very large families--and the predatory bastard scum shopkeepers who will happily sell Mars Bars to five year-olds.

 

[Streathamite]

utterly excellent thread

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Communiqué 4 - 95/08/70 - The taste of victory.

What need have we of sweets?
When in that revolutionary dawn
The very air will be to savour.
Heady with the bitter iron
Of traitors blood, our mouths,
Our lips and tongues will
Turn away from saccharine deceits.
Farewell to Mars and Juicy Fruit.

People’s Commission for the Bright Dawn of Proletarian Democracy (PCBDPD)

 

[past caring]

Can we have a Proletarian Democracy rave flyer, please? As "genuine" as poss...

 

[SpineyNorman]

Joint statement from OPD:CPT, BAS:TARD and the IWBA:

Drug dealing with the renegades:

Comrades!

The question of why the British working class did not overthrow the bourgeoisie and bring about communism after the Industrial Revolution has been a matter of much debate among Marxist thinkers. We are pleased to announce that we have solved this problem once and for all!

The reason is that the working class in the UK is in fact no longer working class at all. With its love of gangsta culture, drugs, hoodies and hanging around on street corners smoking spliffs with lasses called Bianca-Lee, it is clear that the working class has been irredeemably lumpenised!

Bur fear not comrades, there is hope!

There remains one last working class stronghold that has been able to avoid the fetid influence of the lumpen swamp.

This stronghold is the Pigeon Lees estate in Slough, where the IWBA have been successfully engaged in community work. They are working class proper; they don't like doleys and think drug dealers should be strung up by their whatsits. So advanced is their proletarian consciousness that some had already drawn the workers bomb conclusion before the IWBA began their intervention!

We therefore propose that all our efforts be focused on producing the workers bomb for the working class proper in Pigeon Lees in order that they may rid the world of that most dangerous, renegade class - the lumpen. Which is, of course, the entire so called "working class", in otherwords the renegade lumpen elements that make up the rest of the UK population. We should make it clear to all prospective members that unless they're from the working class proper of Pigeon Lees they will have to be sacrificed to that most noble of causes, the introduction of communism.

For a workers bomb!

Workers of the world fuck off, you have nothing to lose but your filthy lumpen lives!

Down with the lumpen elements not living in Pigeon Lees!

Up with the working class proper of Pigeon Lees!

 

[BigTom]

Placing yourself in direct opposition to the druggist faction there comrade, who are bravely fighting fascism through the only viable means - enforced drug consumption (over the age of 6 obviously).
How are we to make opium the opium of the masses and not simply the plaything of the wealthy. if not through programmes of enforced drug use?

 

[SpineyNorman]

Placing yourself in direct opposition to the druggist faction there comrade, who are bravely fighting fascism through the only viable means - enforced drug consumption (over the age of 6 obviously).
How are we to make opium the opium of the masses and not simply the plaything of the wealthy. if not through programmes of enforced drug use?

This simply proves my point - that outside Pigeon Lees the hegemony of lumpen consciousness is so strong that it has even infected layers as advanced as PD comrades! A quick visit to Pigeon Lees, where you get even get a kicking just for putting a roach in a roll-up, will soon cure this most abhorent form of false consciousness!

For a workers bomb!

Workers of the world fuck off, you have nothing to lose but your filthy lumpen lives!

Down with the lumpen elements not living in Pigeon Lees!

Up with the working class proper of Pigeon Lees!

BAS:TARD till I die!

 

[past caring]

Never mind all that - where's me fucking flier?

 

[SpineyNorman]

Chilango's yer man (or possibly woman?)

 

[Nice one]

 

[chilango]

Can we have a Proletarian Democracy rave flyer, please? As "genuine" as poss...

 

[chilango]

I can add text n stuff tommorrow if you have ideas....

 

[chilango]

Chilango's yer man (or possibly woman?)

if I was a woman I'd be chilanga innit?

O is the masculine ending, A is the feminine in Spanish.

It's a shit user name though, and not at all relevent these days....

 

[past caring]

Aye, I'd forgotten that graphic - that's brilliant...

"Proletarian Democracy - 1917 beats per minute"?

"Proletarian Democracy - Summerskool Party - 'Banging' Techno from dusk 'til dawn" (this one has to have the workers bomb fairly central in the graphic)....

 

[rekil]

Revolution does not run on raised fists comrades. As a minor concession to the realities, pressures and contradictions of being communists in a capitalist world, the next issue of Workers' Girder will have chatline ads on the back page. Kronstchat, Alientalk, etc.

 

[frogwoman]

In solidarity with our male comrades and in struggle against all forms of heteronormativism Proletarian Democracy denounces those who use the term "bollocks". Not only does this entrench the continued forms of sexism in the language but it also reminds those of us without any bollocks of our lack of them.

Grow a pair - stand and fight against discrimination! No to divisive swearing!

 

[Greebo]

<snip>Grow a pair - stand and fight against discrimination! No to divisive swearing!

Ovaries!

 

[chilango]

 

[rekil]

Rrrrrrrrrrrepresent