Why the lib-dems are shit

[Spanky Longhorn]

One day perhaps the people of this country will wake up to what we're being offered by the major parties.

I get the impression most people are already aware, however there arent any practical and realistic alternatives outside of a few areas.

Most people who vote seem to vote for the least worst option.

 

[dennisr]

I get the impression most people are already aware, however there arent any practical and realistic alternatives outside of a few areas.

Most people who vote seem to vote for the least worst option.

I think that is important to recognise - It is exactly what people are doing. The resugence in the local labour vote in the election was also a sign of this for all of its limitations. People invariably look for and test what (at least seems to be...) the easiest options first - and that is perfectly understandable.

But, if the present government and the kept media truly believes ordinary people are going to roll over and stick their legs in the air as they become increasingly aware that they are being pushed into a corner in which the only way out is to fight - then I think the government et al are going to be in for a shock.

 

[butchersapron]

They're racist now too.

(Or again, that would be more accurate)

 

[London_Calling]

Or one of them, that would be even more accurate

 

[butchersapron]

I think you mean at least one is, unless, of course, you can prove all the rest are not racist.

 

[FreddyB]

They're racist now too.

(Or again, that would be more accurate)

Don't be fucking silly. Every good liberal knows that only white people can be racist.

 

[London_Calling]

I think you mean at least one is, unless, of course, you can prove all the rest are not racist.

You seemed interested in "accuracy" is all, which is obviously novel for you.

Just helping you with developing that theme.

 

[butchersapron]

You would have helped more if you'd said something accurate. But then again, messing up your crap digs is not at all novel for you.

 

[little_legs]

They're racist now too.

(Or again, that would be more accurate)

ouch... jake knotts would be most proud of this lady.

 

[Sgt Howie]

They're racist now too.

(Or again, that would be more accurate)

That's pretty mild by Lib Dem standards.

 

[toblerone3]

bump

 

[butchersapron]

Eh?

 

[butchersapron]

You'll never see the ashes again

Sports minister Hugh Robertson has warned that funding cuts to sport will further reduce chances of the Ashes returning to free-to-view television.

 

[the button]

Budget will cost 1.3m jobs - Treasury

George Osborne's austerity budget will result in the loss of up to 1.3m jobs across the economy over the next five years according to a private Treasury assessment of the planned spending cuts, the Guardian has learned.

Unpublished estimates of the impact of the biggest squeeze on public spending since the second world war show that the government is expecting between 500,000 and 600,000 jobs to go in the public sector and between 600,000 and 700,000 to disappear in the private sector by 2015.

The chancellor gave no hint last week about the likely effect of his emergency measures on the labour market, although he would have had access to the forecasts traditionally prepared for ministers and senior civil servants in the days leading up to a budget or pre-budget report.

A slide from the final version of a presentation for last week's budget, seen by the Guardian, says: "100-120,000 public sector jobs and 120-140,000 private sector jobs assumed to be lost per annum for five years through cuts."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jun/29/budget-job-losses-unemployment-austerity

Progressive budget ftw

 

[butchersapron]

1.3 million jobs 'at least'. This is an effective attack on the wage. Those people are going to be used to bring wages down.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

1.3 million jobs 'at least'. This is an effective attack on the wage. Those people are going to be used to bring wages down.

Yep, they will be forced to work for their benefits doing the very jobs that have been "lost".

Thanks Libdems for almost singlehandedly driving us into the dirt.

Scum.

 

[the button]

From reserve army of labour to conscript army of labour.

Good work.

 

[Quartz]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jun/29/budget-job-losses-unemployment-austerity

A bit of a problem really, as Osborne is actually increasing the budget by £60Bn over the next 5 years.

 

[butchersapron]

Have you been reading that lib-dem-voice propaganda model they put out the other day?

 

[shagnasty]

According to disco dave employment will increase each year.Not if we have cable stopping help to the car industry.he plans to stop the grant for electric cars which was one of the reason that nissan choice sunderland for leaf electric car

 

[JimW]

From the LRB blog, Clegg saying in run-up to election that anyone cutting public sector jobs would have no mandate in his constituency or any part of Yorkshire:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2010/07/02/jenny-diski/who-are-these-people/

 

[Kaye]

Post on Liberal Democrat MP Jo Swinson's facebook page:

G*** **** F***** I'm afraid that it is my belief that the measures included to protect the poor will not deliver for any but the very very poorest few. £2bn into Tax Credits for example.

My family income is £4k less than the median for the UK, which is currently £30k per year. In April my Tax Credits award was halved to £2k per year. From 2012, because my family ... See moreincome is above £25k per year, it will drop again. For a family with one child it'll drop by £85 per year (page 64 of the budget), so I assume you double that for me (I've two kids), which effectively wipes our the benefit of the Income Tax threshold rise of £200 per year.

Further to that, I'm employed within the public sector, meaning my pay will be frozen for two years, assuming that I still have a job after the cuts (education's not protected). My bills will still go up, even if my Council Tax doesn't. With RPI at 5.8% currently, my outgoings on bills will be up 11.9% by 2012 on my 2010 figures, yet my income will be static. I currently pay around £1.3k per month in bills. If this goes up by 11.9%, I'll be around £155 per month worse off.

To summarise, I'm currently around £170 per month worse off than I was before April. in 2012 I'll be a further £180 per month worse off. This means I'll be £350 per month worse off (but at least I'll have the extra £17 per month from reduced tax).

I appreciate I'm not really that poor, but I can tell you I won't be helping pay for the banker's mistakes with my extra VAT as I'll be buying a hell of a lot less.

This is going to hit a lot of families on below average incomes hard. We may not be the poorest, but we didn't make this mess!

Just for info, I'm a Lib-Dem party member and cllr, for as long as I can afford to be anyway.

 

[ernestolynch]

Are these the biggest joke/sell out outfit in politics? They opposed a cap on immigration in their campaign and now they've backed it

I can't believe I voted for these cunts, I really, really can't. I'm a fucking mug for voting for them, I only wanted to keep Labour out now I wish I hadn't bothered.

You wanted a TORY government (the only thing possible if you 'keep Labour out'), and you got one.

Why so sad?

 

[killer b]

i presume some people voted lib dem hoping for a lab/lib coalition.

not sure what ever gave them the impression that was on the cards, but i can't think why else they'd have done it.

 

[Edie]

I voted Lib Dem for our local MP (Greg Mullholland). He's proper ace, so on the one hand I don't regret voting for him. On the other... Clegg. Worst kind of career politician, all fucking best mates with Cameron. So depressing.

Shout out to Greg though, he's cool.

 

[the button]

Most government departments are being asked to produce "illustrative plans" for spending cuts of up to 40%.

The Treasury wants departmental heads to set out how they would cut spending by both 25% and 40% by the end of July.

But education and defence have been given some protection from the worst of the cuts, and will have to draw up plans for cuts of 10% and 20%.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10500081.stm

 

[stethoscope]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10500081.stm

Labour and the Liberal Democrats campaigned on the basis that to cut spending so deeply this year would threaten the economic recovery.

However, the Lib Dems - now in coalition with the Conservatives - have argued that since the election the markets' loss of confidence in Europe's economies calls for swifter action.

You can't trust the cunts!

 

[butchersapron]

Does anyone know where/when Nick Clegg described AV, the system he know passionately supports as "a miserable little reform" as claimed by Andrew Rawnsley today? I wonder if that will be one of the options on the ballot paper?

 

[Open Sauce]

Does anyone know where/when Nick Clegg described AV, the system he know passionately supports as "a miserable little reform" as claimed by Andrew Rawnsley today? I wonder if that will be one of the options on the ballot paper?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...+compromise+thrashed+out+by+the+Labour+Party”

But he's also said that whatever they said pre-election was just a tactic or something like that

 

[butchersapron]

That wa vince cable, the most honest and therefore popular politician in britain. See earlier in thread