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Why the lib-dems are shit

We're on abut the tories here killer.

And they managed to find another 20 candidates. I don't believe they couldn't find anyone for those wards.
 
belboid said:
they have skipped wards in the past, so its not completely uncommon. They only got about 300 in the two they dropped this time in 2012, so it may genuinely be that they just had no one willing to put themselves through it.
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Of course that may well be the case...but...that said...in the remaining 23 wards of Sheffield, (not exactly traditionally fertile territory for the vermin), the they managed to stand candidates in 20 out of 23 wards.:hmm:
 
butchersapron said:
We're on abut the tories here killer.

And they managed to find another 20 candidates. I don't believe they couldn't find anyone for those wards.
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I know, I was replying to belboid's post about the lib dem vote in Rotherham.

I agree about the Hallam tory situation. fishy as fuck.
 
I've seen a lot of talk recently about the lib dems / tories / labour not bothering to stand / canvas or whatever - I think it's an idea that needs to be challenged. Any serious political party will stand in as many seats as it possibly can, and canvas as hard as possible.

The only reason they wouldn't do that is because of lack of resources and bodies, or for political reasons. Not standing in Hallam when you've got paper candidates everywhere else in the city is pretty blatantly political - although it might not have been an explicit pact as such.
 
From Oakeshott's statement..

Several months ago a close colleague, concerned about voting intentions in Twickenham, asked me if I would arrange and pay for a poll to show us Vince’s current position and how best to get him re-elected. I was happy to help, and Vince amended and approved the questionnaire, but at his request I excluded a question on voting intentions with a change of leader. Although Vince had excellent ratings, both as a Minister and a local MP, he was slightly behind the Conservatives in this poll, as the full details on the ICM website (http://www.icmresearch.com/) show. That poll worried me so much that I commissioned four more in different types of constituency all over the country and added back the change of leadership question. The results were in the Guardian yesterday and on the ICM website (http://www.icmresearch.com/media-centre/polls/lib-dem-constituency-polling). Several weeks ago, I told Vince the results of those four polls too.
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This is looking more and more like Clegg did have enough time to manipulate the Sheff tory stuff.
 
Woah!

Resigning from the party presumably gives him freedom to speak his mind on Clegg - papers are probably already bidding for his side of the story. Could be some nice shit being stirred here.
 
So we have this...

norman smith @BBCNormanS
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Sources close to Nick Clegg say "100% convinced" that Vince Cable not involved in plot to remove him @libdems
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and this...

Several months ago a close colleague, concerned about voting intentions in Twickenham, asked me if I would arrange and pay for a poll to show us Vince’s current position and how best to get him re-elected. I was happy to help, and Vince amended and approved the questionnaire, but at his request I excluded a question on voting intentions with a change of leader. Although Vince had excellent ratings, both as a Minister and a local MP, he was slightly behind the Conservatives in this poll, as the full details on the ICM website (http://www.icmresearch.com/) show. That poll worried me so much that I commissioned four more in different types of constituency all over the country and added back the change of leadership question. The results were in the Guardian yesterday and on the ICM website (http://www.icmresearch.com/media-centre/polls/lib-dem-constituency-polling). Several weeks ago, I told Vince the results of those four polls too.
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:D
 
He has the names of the other plotters. Please Clegg, make another wrong move and attack him - make him use his insider knowledge against you.
 
It's as if somebody challenged David Moyes - and United decided to stick with him, because the alternative was Joe Kinnear.
 
This only highlights their shitness even further.

LO) i've done this, what do you think?
VC) cool, can you remove this bit though?
LO) no probs

LO then proceeds to take it out, then put it back and expand it by 300%. Lies within lies.
 
butchersapron said:
This only highlights their shitness even further.

LO) i've done this, what do you think?
VC) cool, can you remove this bit though?
LO) no probs

LO then proceeds to take it out, then put it back and expand it by 300%. Lies within lies.
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Yep, knowing weeks ago that there'd been 3 other polls!:D

He reveals that Vince Cable asked him not to include a question about whether the Lib Dems would do better under a different leader (the anti-Clegg question, because it showed the answer was yes) in a poll he was conducting in Twickenham. But Oakeshott also reveals that Cable knew several weeks ago that Oakeshott had gone ahead and commissioned polls in four constituencies (including Twickenham) featuring that question.
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