Why the lib-dems are shit

[butchersapron]

Seriously, he's just very publicly accused Cable of lying to Clegg, lying to the lib-dems, lying to the media and lying to himself.

 

[butchersapron]

Isn't it time these island(ish) apes were cut free?


GIBRALTARS EURO VOTES

LD 4,822 (67.1%)
CON 1,236
LAB 659
UKIP 290
OTH 173

 

[brogdale]

R4 News bigging up the prospect of 75 local LD party associations opting for leadership challenge.

 

[butchersapron]

R4 News bigging up the prospect of 75 local LD party associations opting for leadership challenge.

I believe they need 10% of MPs as well - at least they did when i looked into this after the coalition was first formed. Pretty sure anyway.

edit: it's actually any leadership challenger must have 10% backing.

This is the live one:

(f) the receipt by the President of a requisition submitted by at least 75 Local Parties (including for this purpose, the Specified Associated Organisation or Organisations representing youth and/or students) following the decision of a quorate general meeting; or

 

[Dogsauce]

Who'll be left come 2015? They'll end up with a leader by default, last MP standing.

 

[butchersapron]

That's be noted thief David Laws!

 

[killer b]

I think Fallon is probably safe too?

 

[butchersapron]

I think Fallon is probably safe too?

Have a look at the 2005 election - without that 14% rise last time the seat is a marginal, and a marginal with long history of previous tory occupancy. I'd say he's in danger and he knows it, hence putting himself about so much.

 

[redsquirrel]

What does this pious guff mean anyway:



Anyone can do a poll on what they like without the MPs permission you freaky authoritarian. Do they need to ask Cleggs permission to wipe their arse on a pic of his face?

Yeah that is just an utterly bizarre load of horseshit, it shows just how out of touch these vermin are.

 

[butchersapron]

I'm going to the shops in a bit. Do you think i should ask kerry mcarthy (my mp) if that's ok first?

 

[SpineyNorman]

What about Simon Hughes? Seem to remember he had a strong personal vote on account of apparently being a very competent constituency MP - might have dreamed that though.

 

[butchersapron]

What about Simon Hughes? Seem to remember he had a strong personal vote on account of apparently being a very competent constituency MP - might have dreamed that though.

Yep. He has. Don't know how that will play out. A lot of people on here in that seat though. Interested in how they feel things stand.

 

[killer b]

Have a look at the 2005 election - without that 14% rise last time the seat is a marginal, and a marginal with long history of previous tory occupancy. I'd say he's in danger and he knows it, hence putting himself about so much.

oh, good.

My spies in his constituency do claim he's personally well-thought of though, despite popular revulsion for his party. Dunno if that'll be enough...

 

[butchersapron]

Now Wu ming gets involved - a) calls Lord Up himself a liar or b) shows he has no idea of what's happened:

“I shall be very surprised if Vince Cable was made aware of surreptitious polling

 

[butchersapron]

Note also, the lord accused the lib-dems of selling peerages for profit. That's rather gone under the radar.

 

[co-op]

What about Simon Hughes? Seem to remember he had a strong personal vote on account of apparently being a very competent constituency MP - might have dreamed that though.

The wards in his constituency went 14-11 to Labour as opposed to 21-6 to the LIb-Dems in 2010. Obviously 2010 was a good year for the LDs and a bad one for Labour, still that's quite a swing. Bermondsey Labour Party was a bit of a notorious shambles for quite a long time after the whole Peter Tatchell candidacy - the LDs got in and were very hard-working on the ground, kind of kept the local LP moribund for a long time. But I'd think Hughes is in trouble now - the huge swing to Labour in London will mean a lot of ambitious councillors eyeing up every parliamentary seat. I'd guess Lib Peck will now have the Vauxhall job stitched up (Kate Hoey has to piss off eventually) - Jowell's obviously going to hang around for a while...someone will look at Bermondsey and think they can 'ave it if they can put together a hard working team.

 

[Dogsauce]

Note also, the lord accused the lib-dems of selling peerages for profit. That's rather gone under the radar.

It's nothing novel to do that, all the cunts are at it, not really newsworthy I guess.

 

[JTG]

And the Cable poll

Con 34% (-)
LD 30% (-24%)
LAB 24% (+17%)
UKIP 6% (+5%)

Great example of a dormant Labour vote, squashed by nearly two decades of tactical voting, returning to life. You'll see this across the rural West too

 

[DaveCinzano]

This graph from Staines is actually quite funny....%'s from LibDem Voice poll of 992 party members asked "should he stay or should he go now?"

View attachment 54633

.....there will be trouble

CABLE CAN'T WIN HERE!

 

[belboid]

Have a look at the 2005 election - without that 14% rise last time the seat is a marginal, and a marginal with long history of previous tory occupancy. I'd say he's in danger and he knows it, hence putting himself about so much.

naah. South Lakeland, where his seat is, actually still voted libscum in the Euro's! The only place in the country that did. Why else would anyone propose him as leader? He's the only one (other than the scottish lush) who will still have his seat.

 

[butchersapron]

naah. South Lakeland, where his seat is, actually still voted libscum in the Euro's! The only place in the country that did. Why else would anyone propose him as leader? He's the only one (other than the scottish lush) who will still have his seat.

I still can't quite see them losing yeovil - the ghost of paddy rides hard in those parts.

 

[killer b]

paddy rides hard.

*boak*

 

[butchersapron]

*boak*

I didn't feel well typing those words.

 

[belboid]

No, it wont happen. We'll still have ten or so of the bastards, maybe even a couple more, as the Billy Bragg type voter, who says they'll vote Labour at the moment, get into the ballot station and go 'oh fuck, but Labour really do have no chance here, and the tories are evil, so...'

 

[brogdale]

This really does invite some attention from the big polling bods..

A spokesman for Alexander has issued this statement.

This poll does not bear scrutiny. The sample size is too small to be reliable and the whole methodology used has been criticised by other polling companies. Only 309 people contributed to the voting intention question – that is less than half of one percent of the 72,500 in the constituency

 

[belboid]

This really does invite some attention from the big polling bods..

I think there is enough there for ICM to sue.

 

[killer b]

309 is certainly a big enough sample. WTF is he on about?

 

[butchersapron]

Hotting up nicely.

 

[DaveCinzano]

A bit parochial, but definitely deserves a mention.

WINNING HERE!

Councillor Gary Hopkins has been elected the new leader of the Bristol Liberal Democrats.

The news was broken by former leader Tim Kent (Whitchurch Park) who put on Twitter “congratulations to Cllr Gary Hopkins on being elected Leader of @BristolLibDems we had 3 great candidates.”

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Counci...d-new-leader/story-21148230-detail/story.html

 

[JTG]

309 is certainly a big enough sample. WTF is he on about?

Aren't national polls done with around 1000? So for a single constituency that's easily enough