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Why the lib-dems are shit
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
the more I think about it the idea of 'house divided, face front till the GE' rings hollow. The libs aren't in touch with reality enough to consider that, not even at the top.
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ICM referred self to BPC over lack of client name, BPC Oked it. More to come on this i'm sure. Leaves lib-dems scrabbling around looking for 5th columnists and knowing stuff without having the ability to back it up. All good.
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Steve Comer was on the local news earlier calling for Clegg's resignation 
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He wants shis seat back the bowl headed cunt. Does he really think there will be a swing back to the lib-dems in eastville whatever happens? De-fucking-luded.Steve Comer was on the local news earlier calling for Clegg's resignation
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i look forward to this thread being retitled 'why the lib-dem is shit'. can't be long now.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
'were' would be better
Taking orders from Vince in his Beijing bunkerSteve Comer was on the local news earlier calling for Clegg's resignation
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goldenecitrone
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And who. As in 'Why who were shit?'
More Lib Dem self-delusion. From Shirley Williams this time.
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Note she uses almost the same words as ashdown - the party elders have decided this is the way it's going to be and conflabbed. Others may not - more potential for civil war.
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Yes, Shirley, "The Liberal Democrats are lucky to have such an able and committed leader". There's slightly out of touch, then there's just daft.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
thats what done my head in over the coverage on sunday night, the lib stooge was using all sorts of fancy pants reasoning to escape the fact that the electorate now despises the lib dems. In doing so he labbeled us all thick borderline racists. 'A new era of Jon Bull' was particularly galling. Can't you accept defeat gracefully? no.
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Independent now say the poll was by Cables best mate, Oakeshott.
Dogsauce
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A bizarre interpretation, I doubt much of the Lib Dem vote went to UKIP!
Ah, it's all about the message - not explaining it well enough
54% want Clegg to stay as Leader
resounding vote of confidence
http://www.libdemvoice.org/exclusiv...tweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter
resounding vote of confidence
http://www.libdemvoice.org/exclusiv...tweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter
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I think it did. On the protest vote basis. A large bit i reckon. Lib-dems used to be standard anti-main party vote regardless of policy, now it went UKIP, regardless of policy.
Yep - one of the big mistakes many made is thinking that Lib 15-20% was a committed Liberal vote. Not true
Dogsauce
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I'm less certain - lib dems always managed to do well as an anti-main party vote, but UKIP (as a protest) seems more of an anti-politics vote, which I'm not sure is the same thing/motivation. Will be interesting to see any polling on who voted UKIP, which I'm sure will be undertaken.
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There were the same sort of doubts that there is a UKIP w/c labour vote only a month ago.
I can't remember where but there are polling figures showing a higher than expected transfer from Libdems to UKiP. I used to know a Libdem councillor who became one of the first UKIP councillors when he defected to them way back when
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It gets better, who is buying this:
Sam Coates Times@SamCoatesTimes
Cable: “Commissioning and publishing polls without the consent of the Member of Parliament is utterly reprehensible."
This is genius, the plotters turn on each other for plotting/being caught plotting. Is there nothing they can't fuck up.
Sam Coates Times@SamCoatesTimes
Cable: “Commissioning and publishing polls without the consent of the Member of Parliament is utterly reprehensible."
This is genius, the plotters turn on each other for plotting/being caught plotting. Is there nothing they can't fuck up.
Lord Oakeshott is Cables mate isn't he?
eta - apols, just saw your earlier post. yes!
Dogsauce
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They used to be less 'racist' (for want of a better description) so that early defection is not as surprising - in the early days I think it was about curbing the powers of the superstate and not much else - why there are a few dissenters from this period like Sked throwing muck at Nigel now he's gone more strongly after immigration.
The Lib dems in the seat next to mine were put there by the student vote, so I'm probably seeing their support through that perspective (plus the Waitrose sect), and I can't see those type of supporters really taking that big an idealogical swing, but I guess that's not the case everywhere. I'd like to see the post-election polls showing what people's previous votes were when they appear.
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