The Tories have generally been more bloodthirsty than the other major parties when it comes to knifing leaders, but I couldn't see them deposing Cameron now, a year before an election, no matter how badly they did.
Why the lib-dems are shit
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The Tories have generally been more bloodthirsty than the other major parties when it comes to knifing leaders, but I couldn't see them deposing Cameron now, a year before an election, no matter how badly they did.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
there is that, a house divided never wins and in a year there isn't the time to have a new leader installed, brand built etc
besides, who have they got? cable lol
besides, who have they got? cable lol
Cable would take it if offered but he won't throw Clegg overboard for it, and least of all now. I reckon the next leader will have to be someone we've not really heard of; someone not too tarnished by association with the Coalition, and certainly not someone who's had a senior appointment in it. Though on the other hand one wonders if Danny Alexander fancies his chances.
Of course, just saying they're the least unlikely to have a civil war over bad results.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
is anyone going to want to take over the lib dems right now? They're going to get trampled in 2015 - so surely the best bet for any potential leader - i.e. farron - is to let clegg (and beaker) carry the can - then be in charge of the 'rebuilding'.
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
wonder what songs clegg will be crying along to today?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
free spirit
more tea vicar?
only if they're sure of keeping their own seat at the election under clegg.
If they realise they're likely to lose their own seat, then the game plan would have to change as they'd stand no chance of being leader if they weren't even in parliament.
I suspect this election will prove to be a huge wake up call for a lot of MPs who'd been intending to just hang on til after the election, then maybe make a leadership challenge, rather than risking taking the blame for a lib dem drubbing by taking over now.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Bah beat me to it, I just came to post that.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
who was that prat on last nights beeb coverage of the results bemoaning 'a new spirit of jon bull' amongst the electorate rather than accept that his party was getting pasted cos everyone hates them now? Fallon gong?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Cable would be funnier- I think Vince of House Cable genuinely believes his shit doesn't stink and the result of reality catching up with him, live on camera, would make my year
teqniq
DisMembered
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Oh god, I want them to dethrone Clegg for Alexander. That would be glorious. Can you imagine them going into the next election with him in charge?
Can't be Alexander...even if re-elected he'd not be a fUK MP after 2016.
One of the great joys of the last 24 hours has been the dawning realisation on the poor schmucks that they really are staring oblivion in the face. Three decades of slowly climbing back from the Liberal Party in a telephone box years blown away in one term of power.
And they never saw it coming did they? They really didn't - their dreadful local election results consistently explained away with excuses they actually believed. And now this - less popular than the Greens, who haven't had to advance one jot on their 2009 result to move ahead of them. 'South West heartlands' lol - they even believed that for years. Newsflash - many in the West Country were only ever voting for you because they dislike Tories and you were the only viable alternative. Deliver a Tory government and see what your 'heartland' thinks of that.
You divs
And they never saw it coming did they? They really didn't - their dreadful local election results consistently explained away with excuses they actually believed. And now this - less popular than the Greens, who haven't had to advance one jot on their 2009 result to move ahead of them. 'South West heartlands' lol - they even believed that for years. Newsflash - many in the West Country were only ever voting for you because they dislike Tories and you were the only viable alternative. Deliver a Tory government and see what your 'heartland' thinks of that.
You divs
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
So who leaked it?
That's a great quote. 'More modest' than 'marginally better.' How many extra voters are they talking?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I think the eastleigh by-election victory really convinced them that it would be alright on the night. In hindsight, i'm glad that they won that now.One of the great joys of the last 24 hours has been the dawning realisation on the poor schmucks that they really are staring oblivion in the face. Three decades of slowly climbing back from the Liberal Party in a telephone box years blown away in one term of power.
And they never saw it coming did they? They really didn't - their dreadful local election results consistently explained away with excuses they actually believed. And now this - less popular than the Greens, who haven't had to advance one jot on their 2009 result to move ahead of them. 'South West heartlands' lol - they even believed that for years. Newsflash - many in the West Country were only ever voting for you because they dislike Tories and you were the only viable alternative. Deliver a Tory government and see what your 'heartland' thinks of that.
You divs
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
they scraped beastliegh and lost every other by election. How much self delusion does it take to act like the third wheel of brit politics when most bys see you down in the same vote share as the far right and far left and localist hobby horse parties?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I'm seriously beginning to wonder if the tories might just dissolve the coalition themselves. Seeing quite how toxic Clegg is they might just fear collateral damage through such close association with a political corpse ,especially with such a light legislative programme over the 11 months left.
Yep, properly dire results everywhere - the tactical votes of the mid to late 90s onwards lost in time like tears in the rain...
Time to die
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
They'll do worse at GE if Clegg stays, hence probably better that happens.
I wonder if the Tories (and their friends in the press) will stir things or make trouble, in the knowledge that a new leader (as long a it isn't beaker) might improve LD fortunes and perhaps damage Labour's prospects? It's conceivable that if they picked someone reasonably human-sounding it might draw votes from Miliband.
I wonder if the Tories (and their friends in the press) will stir things or make trouble, in the knowledge that a new leader (as long a it isn't beaker) might improve LD fortunes and perhaps damage Labour's prospects? It's conceivable that if they picked someone reasonably human-sounding it might draw votes from Miliband.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Anthony Wells says icm now have to make the poll public under polling regulations. Nice.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
it'd be fucking funny just to see the look on Cleggs face, but would presumably result in a vote of no confidence in the government, resulting in a quick election.
Maybe there would be an advantage to be gained from that, hitting the election while the lib dems are down and out, and labour are at their lowest ebb for several years, but it'd be a high risk strategy.
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