Calamity1971
If Mr Peanut says It's okay, then it is.
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Who will win the 2024 US election?
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cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
I need to drown my sorrows, just checked when my local micro-pub opens, expecting it to be 11am, but it's 9am, way too early, but I am actually considering it.
ska invita
back on the other side
it really isnt
i think the left can prosper better under the conditions of as left a government that can be elected....
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
I'm on the overnight shift tonight and blimey it's tempting to drink a bit and sleep it off beforehand.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Unacceptable. Reported.
Idris2002
Christmas Eve, you know?
It was a little bit frightening, but they fought with expert timing.
They were funky urban people from funky urban town
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
OK if you say so.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Its certainly the end of something
Idris2002
Christmas Eve, you know?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Maybe skip ahead a few chapters, find out what happened after Lenin.
Cid
Proper break this time
That legislation has always been extremely hard to pass though. Which, fine, is partly a centrist excuse for inaction. But fuck, we (the left) can't just keep falling back on the same old shit and crowing about centrists dropping the ball. This isn't just an election lost by the democrats, it's one won by vast media influence, by Elon fucking Musk and the other tech bros, by shareholder capitalism, by conspiracism and individualist tendencies that are as much reactions to threats against privilege as anything else.
Put another way; something that winds me up about how we discuss this is that we essentially cast the republicans as passive; they don't win, the dems lose. Because they're shit. Elements of truth in that for sure. But fuck, spend any time in the deeply online world of the contemporary US and you can see just how pervasive and effective the distributed campaigns of the right can be. It looks like turnout was high this year. It looks like people were motivated to vote by Trump and his associated support. It is a victory for far right politics, not just a loss for centrism.
Idris2002
Christmas Eve, you know?
I've always said the true historical analogy for Trump is Napoleon III.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Doubt it. Centrists are too well dug in, and too fanatical in their own ridiculous way.
What an absolute shitshow of a country, their 'President Elect' is talking now sounding like a Mafia Don out of a shit B Movie.
Fuck them, fuck the lot of them with the millions of dead from their fucking wars, slavery, racism and disgusting feral society.
And they wonder why they are called the Great Satan...
Fuck them, fuck the lot of them with the millions of dead from their fucking wars, slavery, racism and disgusting feral society.
And they wonder why they are called the Great Satan...
ska invita
back on the other side
if it is only because they'll move more to the right....seems to be the current genius thinking going around
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
The older SC justices will retire soon and that's game over. Two or three young replacements should lock up the US for 50 years. If anybody lasts that long.
The EU, Taiwan, you name it. All fucked.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
He doesn't, but his outriders do and it's horrifying.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
But Biden is senile!
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
Be grateful he did.
i'll hold that thought over the next few years
cant believe that kid missed... so close....
Trump's Veep is worse than him and more competent.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
RFK given the Health etc dept to dismantle, Musk given free reign to do god knows what damage to the economy. It's one scary proposal.
Cid
Proper break this time
Yeah, I think last time there was an element of 'wtf, he actually won?'. Now the ultra-libertarians, the ultra-conservatives etc have spent those 4 years, and the 4 years under Biden building structures that can take advantage of this. Project 2025 etc. And they look to have a significantly better legislative environment to do it in.
The whole concept of the USA and everything it is based on has failed and has been failing for decades.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
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