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Who will win the 2024 US election?

Who will win?


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I need to drown my sorrows, just checked when my local micro-pub opens, expecting it to be 11am, but it's 9am, way too early, but I am actually considering it.
I'm on the overnight shift tonight and blimey it's tempting to drink a bit and sleep it off beforehand.
 
Harder to invoke if people feel their lives are improving. Food and housing is a third more expensive in the US than the UK and they have to pay for health care.

That legislation has always been extremely hard to pass though. Which, fine, is partly a centrist excuse for inaction. But fuck, we (the left) can't just keep falling back on the same old shit and crowing about centrists dropping the ball. This isn't just an election lost by the democrats, it's one won by vast media influence, by Elon fucking Musk and the other tech bros, by shareholder capitalism, by conspiracism and individualist tendencies that are as much reactions to threats against privilege as anything else.

Put another way; something that winds me up about how we discuss this is that we essentially cast the republicans as passive; they don't win, the dems lose. Because they're shit. Elements of truth in that for sure. But fuck, spend any time in the deeply online world of the contemporary US and you can see just how pervasive and effective the distributed campaigns of the right can be. It looks like turnout was high this year. It looks like people were motivated to vote by Trump and his associated support. It is a victory for far right politics, not just a loss for centrism.
 
What an absolute shitshow of a country, their 'President Elect' is talking now sounding like a Mafia Don out of a shit B Movie.

Fuck them, fuck the lot of them with the millions of dead from their fucking wars, slavery, racism and disgusting feral society.

And they wonder why they are called the Great Satan...
 
Bloody 'ell have you all been drinking all night or something?

This thread is completely nuts.

Not much happened when Trump was in power last. He has no programme. It's not a big deal.
The older SC justices will retire soon and that's game over. Two or three young replacements should lock up the US for 50 years. If anybody lasts that long.

The EU, Taiwan, you name it. All fucked.
 
He doesn't, but his outriders do and it's horrifying.

Yeah, I think last time there was an element of 'wtf, he actually won?'. Now the ultra-libertarians, the ultra-conservatives etc have spent those 4 years, and the 4 years under Biden building structures that can take advantage of this. Project 2025 etc. And they look to have a significantly better legislative environment to do it in.
 
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