When will the lib dem split happen?

[belboid]

Anyone leaving once the economy double dips will look like a naive fool who didn't understand what policies they were implementing. If does DD, then they'll hang on, desperately trying to claim any tiny thing (12p on pensions, raising the income tax threshold by more than inflatin) as proof it was all worthwhile

 

[frogwoman]

Let's put it this way, IMO if a split occurs then it won't be over political differences.

 

[butchersapron]

Career wise they're better hanging together - in the medium-long term.

 

[Lock&Light]

Indeed. The worst of the decisions have been taken; if they were going to split, they'd have done so already.

Not if they are planning for the long term.

 

[Lock&Light]

Career wise they're better hanging together - in the medium-long term.

Exactly.

 

[Sgt Howie]

Not if they are planning for the long term.

How do you plan a long-term split?

 

[Lock&Light]

How do you plan a long-term split?

I'm quite happy to continue to answer you, but your questions suggest you're not understanding my answers.

 

[Sgt Howie]

I'm quite happy to continue to answer you, but your questions suggest you're not understanding my answers.

I understand you pretty well: you made a complete twat of yourself a page ago but your male pride prevents you withdrawing from the field.

 

[belboid]

Exactly.

Which wont affect the fact that they are fucked.

Anyone chcked the odds on Hughes becoming the second Green MP?

 

[Lock&Light]

I understand you pretty well: you made a complete twat of yourself a page ago but your male pride prevents you withdrawing from the field.

It might come as a surprise to you, but I don't agree with a word of that.

 

[Santino]

At some point Lib Dem MPs will need to weigh up the value of their ministerial posts against the value of just having a seat in Parliament. They're not all going to be given safe Tory seats or peerage.

 

[Lock&Light]

Why do imagine that LibDem MP's are so lacking in any sort of political acumen to have not yet considered the possible consequences of their decision?

 

[Sgt Howie]

It might come as a surprise to you, but I don't agree with a word of that.

It doesn't come as a surprise to me at all: attempts to conceal wounded male pride beneath bluster are a pheonomenon you see all over the internet.

 

[Lock&Light]

You are beginning to be boring, you know?

 

[belboid]

Why do imagine that LibDem MP's are so lacking in any sort of political acumen to have not yet considered the possible consequences of their decision?

I am fairly sure they didn't realise how bad it would be. They've pretty much admitted that re their bigget fuck up - the fees pledge. That was their Big Lie, they wont recover from it (just like Heseltine/Major announcing that Scargill had been right, and they were going to shut all the pits killed off the '92 government)

 

[Lock&Light]

(just like Heseltine/Major announcing that Scargill had been right, and they were going to shut all the pits killed off the '92 government)

I think there were very many reasons for the demise of Major's second administration.

 

[belboid]

that was one tho - iot was the moment they fell dramatically behind in the polls.

Of course the ERM thing shortly afterwards sealed their fate.

 

[butchersapron]

I think there were very many reasons for the demise of Major's second administration.

At what point do you intend to say anything substantial? The wait is killing me.

 

[Sgt Howie]

You are beginning to be boring, you know?

Oh go on then, you can have the last word. Have a wank afterwards and your ego will be right as rain.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

More on those all important LibDem voters: http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/11/22/what-can-libdems-and-labour-learn-from-changing-polls/

Oh and lol at seeing the ever so nice Lock&Shite back!

 

[Streathamite]

Anyone chcked the odds on Hughes becoming the second Green MP?

actually, he could prolly pull this off. HUGE local tail, the sort of area really hit for 6 by these cuts, Labour not that popular due to Southwark council being pretty hopeless, and a lot in the area of the sort of young 'trendy' types who are more likely to vote green. It's feasible, and he'd hold the seat too.

 

[Streathamite]

that was one tho - iot was the moment they fell dramatically behind in the polls.

Of course the ERM thing shortly afterwards sealed their fate.

didn't the poll collapse come after, and (partly) as a result of Black Monday?

 

[frogwoman]

Is simon hughes gonna leave the LDs?

 

[butchersapron]

No he wouldn't. Labour would eat him up.

Hughes is exactly the two faces of the lib-dems. He's not going anywhere.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Is simon hughes gonna leave the LDs?

He'll probably wait till the blue doves join the Tories, the Kennedites join labour so he can lead the New Liberal Democrats...

 

[belboid]

didn't the poll collapse come after, and (partly) as a result of Black Monday?

Black Wednesday. Which, afer checking, I see was the month before the miners after all. Oh well, either way, the two things destroyed Majors government.

 

[Sgt Howie]

Is simon hughes gonna leave the LDs?

No Even sitting on the backbenches, he's already tainted. His best bet is to sit tight and hope he can assume command after Clegg crashes and burns; the only people who will respect him for staying loyal to the Lib Dems are Lib Dem members.

 

[frogwoman]

And even then ...

 

[Lock&Light]

At what point do you intend to say anything substantial? The wait is killing me.

Seems there was some substance after all. Quelle surprise!

 

[belboid]

Seems there was some substance after all. Quelle surprise!

not from you tho