When will the lib dem split happen?

[Santino]

I'm still prepared to discuss the motivations of LibDem polititians. Is anyone else?

No you are

 

[Lock&Light]

No you are

It is the subject of this thread, after all.

 

[nino_savatte]

ffs ... i actually thought this could be quite a good discussion ... well not good but perhaps better than the one we've got now.

I'll give you three guesses why that happened.

 

[Streathamite]

latest polling report - libh dems still flatlining, and on course for electoral oblivion

 

[Lock&Light]

Last May the British electorate voted for a hung parliament. With FPTP this is a rare phenomenon. With PR, however, hung parliaments would be expected after every election. The LibDems, a party that has advocated PR for decades, was presented with a problem. How could they continue to advocate PR if they couldn’t prove that coalition government can work? The Tories had the most seats, and therefore, despite the misgivings of most in the party who would have preferred an arrangement with Labour, the Coalition was born. The LibDems are now trying to prove that coalition government can work. That is their strategy and only the long term will show whether they’ve made the right choices or not.

 

[butchersapron]

A hung parliament was the result. It's not what people voted 'for' at all.

And no, the majority of lib-dems wanted this coalition.

Say something.

 

[Lock&Light]

A hung parliament was the result. It's not what people voted 'for' at all.

And no, the majority of lib-dems wanted this coalition.

Say something.

The result is the same however you spin it. The majority agreed to the coalition as a Lib-Lab coalition proved impossible.

 

[Santino]

The result is the same however you spin it. The majority agreed to the coalition as a Lib-Lab coalition proved impossible.

I didn't get a 'Coalition' box on my voting paper.

 

[butchersapron]

The result is the same however you spin it. The majority agreed to the coalition as a Lib-Lab coalition proved impossible.

No it's not. What are you on about? You might as well say the majority agree to a tory-labour coalition.

 

[Lock&Light]

I didn't get a 'Coalition' box on my voting paper.

If you remove the words "Last May the British electorate voted for a hung parliament." from my previous post and replace them with "Last May the result of the election was a hung parliament." then you might be able to comment on the rest of that posting without collapsing from pedentry before you start.

 

[Santino]

If you remove the words "Last May the British electorate voted for a hung parliament." from my previous post and replace them with "Last May the result of the election was a hung parliament." then you might be able to comment on the rest of that posting without collapsing from pedentry before you start.

It's 'pedantry'.

 

[Lock&Light]

When a penchant for pedantry reigns
It leads to commensurate pains
To find many examples
Of similar samples
Of that which wisdom disdains.

 

[butchersapron]

Fuck off

 

[Santino]

That last line wants another syllable. It doesn't scan at all.

 

[Crispy]

One surplus syllable in each line of the second couplet, too.

 

[Isambard]

I voted Lib Dem, I admit it.
I voted Lib Dem to keep the tories OUT and oust a bigotted corrupt sitting Tory MP.
I did NOT vote for the CONDEM coalition and what what is happening now.

We gained a LibDem MP and she seems fairly OKish on a constituency level, even if her complaints about cuts by the tory council are hypocritical.
However as things stand, I shall NOT be voting for her again and I dare say she could well be heading for electoral oblivion.
Planning to abstain or spoil next time.

 

[Lock&Light]

One surplus syllable in each line of the second couplet, too.

Everyone's a critic.

 

[Sgt Howie]

I voted Lib Dem, I admit it.
I voted Lib Dem to keep the tories OUT and oust a bigotted corrupt sitting Tory MP.
I did NOT vote for the CONDEM coalition and what what is happening now.

Exactly.

 

[Lock&Light]

Individuals don't vote for a government. They vote for a parliament and then the parliament decides the government. That's how it works in most western-type democracies.

 

[moon23]

latest polling report - libh dems still flatlining, and on course for electoral oblivion

Sometimes governments have to do things that are unpopular in the short-term like announce cuts back in spending increases. I still think that's the right thing to do in the economic situation, and when we next goto the polls in a general election more people might agree.

 

[butchersapron]

Individuals don't vote for a government. They vote for a parliament and then the parliament decides the government. That's how it works in most western-type democracies.

No they don't. They vote for a constituency MP. Get it right.

 

[butchersapron]

Sometimes governments have to do things that are unpopular in the short-term like announce cuts back in spending increases. I still think that's the right thing to do in the economic situation, and when we next goto the polls in a general election more people might agree.

Sometimes daddy has to hurt you.

You're vile, stupid, ignorant and clueless.

 

[Lock&Light]

No they don't. They vote for a constituency MP. Get it right.

That's right. A Member of Parliament. That's what I'm saying.

 

[butchersapron]

That's right. A Member of Parliament. That's what I'm saying.

No, it's not.

 

[Lock&Light]

No, it's not.

Why are you being so obtuse? Voters vote for an MP, that MP then votes for the government. That's rather well known, in fact.

 

[Streathamite]

Sometimes governments have to do things that are unpopular in the short-term like announce cuts back in spending increases.

jesus stop these lies. They do NOT have to do this - there are alternatives.

 

[belboid]

Why are you being so obtuse? Voters vote for an MP, that MP then votes for the government. That's rather well known, in fact.

Because it's not what you said, and if you are going to try to be a pedantic bastard, you should get it right

 

[butchersapron]

Why are you being so obtuse? Voters vote for an MP, that MP then votes for the government. That's rather well known, in fact.

I'm leaving you now. Be better.

 

[Lock&Light]

Because it's not what you said, and if you are going to try to be a pedantic bastard, you should get it right

That is what i said. You only have to re-read it to see.

 

[belboid]

Sometimes governments have to do things that are unpopular in the short-term like announce cuts back in spending increases. I still think that's the right thing to do in the economic situation, and when we next goto the polls in a general election more people might agree.

make your mind up. One minute its purely because of the 'economic situation' the next it's ideological. You and Cleggy keep doing the same thing. Inherently dishonest.