All Councils are making some form of cut, it's a legitimate criticism if some are targeting certain areas or groups. It's the same criticism that everyone on this board makes against many of the proposals.
When will the lib dem split happen?
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All Councils are making some form of cut, it's a legitimate criticism if some are targeting certain areas or groups. It's the same criticism that everyone on this board makes against many of the proposals.
belboid
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Are you really so thick as to miss his point? That its your own fucking councillors doing so?
And, of course, the liberals themselves had been doing precisely the same thing within councils whenever they won any. Now it is happening to them, they whine. No principles.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Astonishing.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
In the same way the Liberal Scum won the election?
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
He hasn't argued for anything; rather he's just made some factually inaccurate comments.
Louis MacNeice
So it's a legitimate critiscism if the poorest and neediest are atttached in savage spensing cuts?
But at the same time we "have" to do it?
Get your record straight Moon, please.
There is something Childlike about believing the government has magic pots of gold to carry on spending with and that nothing bad will ever come of this.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
The only straight bit of moon's story is his consistent promotion of the party.
Louis MacNeice
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The govt does have a magic pot of gold to buy me big tvs.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
and there's something inherently dishonest about pretending that anyone says any such thing. Another classic Tory line you've picked up
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
No problem - #319. It may seem like hair splitting, burt the distinction is vital and goes all the way back to De Montfort, in truth. I have one vote, for my local man. I am the only person who knows whether I am voting on local issues, for a particular party, in appreciation of the virtues of a particular candidate, because I hate A N other candidate, against a particular party, as a result of some spectacularly intricate tac-vote consideration, on a single national issue, or whatever combination of some/all of these, or whatever, full stop (in fact, it was Labour, solely because we have a fantastic Labour candidate). Either way, the ID of the Member for Leyton & Wanstead) is ALL I have my miniscule impact into. I am aware that the composition of the parliament is as a result of me x 30mil (or however many) and that the nature and therefore platform of the govt is a direct arithmentical consequence of that, but I do NOT vote for either parliament or govt; no-one does.
The distinction for me is in the inevitable conflation of local and national issues.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Are ye home btw?
My record is straight, cuts are needed but I don't think they should unfairly target the poorest and neediest. They should be above the board, those with the broadest shoulders should contribute the most.
Perhaps the Council in question has cut a lot of services in one poor ward and not in other richer wards, without knowing the detail it's impossible to know. It's entirely possible it's a valid criticism of how they are making the cuts.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
is it fuck you liar
Fuck me, it's a coalition of the morons.
Fair point, it was a bit of a strawman, but I hardly said 'Daddy needs to hurt you' either. It's not that people think we need to reduce spending becuase it's good to hurt people, but rather that their economic understanding is such that they think this is the best course of action in the long run for people.
The government doesn't have pots of gold.
They have gone to the bankers, to Trident, tax breaks for the mega rich and not even collecting due taxes to name but a few.
And a sponging doalites fecking wedding to pay for now as well.
There is a significant burden on the industry that actually generates the wealth in this country. Rich people pay much more tax than poor people.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
There is nothing childlike in recognising that this is a wealthy country quite able to 'pay it's way' (using the sort of phrase you seem to like); what is required are some tough political choices and actions (tough for a small minority that is).
What is childlike is sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting TINA, TINA!
Louis MacNeice
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Pain is good for you. Work makes you free.
Funny how you said exactly the opposite before the election.
Hair-splitting?! Side-splitting sooner.
Jesus, I have been patient Moon, but it is the yellow Tories! LOLZ, you couldn't make it up!
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What do you think the private sector is?
That's factually incorrect. No-one won the election. That's why the parliament was hung. That's why this thread was started to discuss the politics of how long can the LibDems stay together. Those are the issues I have addressed, and while no-one needs to agree with me, there is no justification for saying that I've de-railed this thread.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
You haven't said anything. And what you haven't said was wrong.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Actually fuck loads of them, in all likelihood a majority, pay a smaller proportion of their income in tax than the average worker does. So you're wrong again.
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belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
You really are amazingly fucking thick arent you. Wow.
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