When will the lib dem split happen?

[Lock&Light]

WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU GOT AGAINST ENYA JEFF? EH?

Is that question directed at me? If so, what does it mean?

 

[Isambard]

Is that question directed at me? If so, what does it mean?

The post thread was directed at Jeff R, what he has so badly against Enya that he thinks you belong at one of her concerts.

 

[Streathamite]

I have read this thread. However I am still unclear as to when the Lib Dem split will appear. Oh silly me. I am talking on topic.

While I am here then I will attempt an answer. They won't split. Just as in the days when Labour slewed off to the right it was always pointed out to those who objected that "There was nowhere else to go" and attempts to create somewhere else to go have been unsuccessful to date.

If people in the Labour party who have a clear understanding of their own politics couldn't form a new party then the Lib Dems who almost by definition have no politics, will not be able to form a split off party. They will do the same as the majority of 'Old Labour' supporters, just drop out of involvement in politics.

fancy a server-fund-aiding wager that we will, at the very least, see an open revolt and a formal leadership challenge by May 2012, i.e. within 2 years of the start of the Coalition? I'm confident about this and witnesses won't be a problem.
e2a; name your sum.

 

[belboid]

The post thread was directed at Jeff R, what he has so badly against Enya that he thinks you belong at one of her concerts.

Use of the word 'Jeff' would have been enough to give that away to most people you'd have thought.

 

[Lock&Light]

The post thread was directed at Jeff R, what he has so badly against Enya that he thinks you belong at one of her concerts.

Vitriol is not attractive.

 

[Lock&Light]

Use of the word 'Jeff' would have been enough to give that away to most people you'd have thought.

Crazy, isn't it how I read 'Enya Jeff' as meaning Enya Jeff. A simple comma could have avoided that.

 

[belboid]

you not being thick as fuck would have helped more

 

[Lock&Light]

you not being thick as fuck would have helped more

The nature of true love is unfathomable.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

fancy a server-fund-aiding wager that we will, at the very least, see an open revolt and a formal leadership challenge by May 2012, i.e. within 2 years of the start of the Coalition? I'm confident about this and witnesses won't be a problem.
e2a; name your sum.

I have no disagreement about there being a strong possibility of leadership challenge. That kind of open revolt is not a 'split', it is the opposite, an attempt to put the whole party on a different route. Similarly the Labour Party finally dumped Blair in favour of Brown. Not that there was any change of policy as a result.

 

[Streathamite]

I have no disagreement about there being a strong possibility of leadership challenge. That kind of open revolt is not a 'split', it is the opposite, an attempt to put the whole party on a different route. Similarly the Labour Party finally dumped Blair in favour of Brown. Not that there was any change of policy as a result.

OK, yes, see your point.
<sorry editor>

 

[Jeff Robinson]

On reflection L(C)ock&LITE probably just attends justin bieber tribute act concerts. I think I've also seen him in my neighbourhood going up to up the shops at 7:00am to buy a curly wurly wearing his mum's pinny.

 

[Lock&Light]

On reflection L(C)ock&LITE probably just attends justin bieber tribute act concerts. I think I've also seen him in my neighbourhood going up to up the shops at 7:00am to buy a curly wurly wearing his mum's pinny.

Do you live in Holland, then? How unfortunate.

 

[ViolentPanda]

On reflection L(C)ock&LITE probably just attends justin bieber tribute act concerts. I think I've also seen him in my neighbourhood going up to up the shops at 7:00am to buy a curly wurly wearing his mum's pinny.

Why is a Curly-Wurly wearing his mum's pinny?

 

[Pickman's model]

Do you live in Holland, then? How unfortunate.

more fortunate than living near you

 

[Lock&Light]

Pick is a poster we know
With remarkably little to show.
After years of up-piping,
Spouting drivel and sniping,
He never quite gets in the blow.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

On reflection L(C)ock&LITE probably just attends justin bieber tribute act concerts. I think I've also seen him in my neighbourhood going up to up the shops at 7:00am to buy a curly wurly wearing his mum's pinny.

A good nickname for this clown might be Cock&Shite

 

[Lock&Light]

A good nickname for this clown might be Cock&Shite

How very 2003.

 

[Pickman's model]

A good nickname for this clown might be Cock&Shite

urban rhyming slang: lock&light - full of shite

 

[Pickman's model]

Pick is a poster we know
With remarkably little to show.
After years of up-piping,
Spouting drivel and sniping,
He never quite gets in the blow.

lock&light should never try
to express himself in poetry.
his doggerel does not hit the spot -
he'd do far better to just stop.

 

[Lock&Light]

urban rhyming slang: lock&light - full of shite

That was more 2004.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Lock&Light = intellectually slight

 

[Pickman's model]

lock&light - an annoying mite

 

[Lock&Light]

Has anyone any interest in discussing the LibDems?

 

[Santino]

Has anyone any interest in discussing the LibDems?

Stop up-piping.

 

[Refused as fuck]

I don't know what there must be left to discuss. We've established that the Lib Dems individually and en masse are unprincipled lying scum, any split would be self-serving and that most of them would be swallowed by the Tories which is where they clearly belong.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I don't know what there must be left to discuss. We've established that the Lib Dems individually and en masse are unprincipled lying scum, any split would be self-serving and that most of them would be swallowed by the Tories which is where they clearly belong.

The split or swallow question

 

[Isambard]

The split or swallow question

Will they shoot to top of the polls?

 

[ericjarvis]

I don't know what there must be left to discuss. We've established that the Lib Dems individually and en masse are unprincipled lying scum, any split would be self-serving and that most of them would be swallowed by the Tories which is where they clearly belong.

I don't think it's fair to say we established it. The Lib Dems have managed to solidly and conclusively prove it all by themselves. The important thing being that they are unprincipled lying scum who are crap at hiding it. Which is where they differ from the Tories, who are unprincipled lying scum and proud of it.

 

[belboid]

The important thing being that they are unprincipled lying scum who are crap at hiding it.

This is one of the key things i think. That they are actuallt politically incompetent. Cameron has run rings around them, given them virtually nothing other than a vote on AV, which they look likely to lose. It's all been for nothing. And te attempt to cover up for the volte face on fees just disgusts people. Trying to claim they haven't broken any promises. It's those kinds of lies that just aren't forgiven.

In terms of 'splits' (which, i think we've agreed aren;t going to happen in any way en masse) - who is most likely to go the other way do we think? To the right. A friend of a friend of mine is a Liberal Scum councillor locally, and he fairly happily tells me he'd join the tories - as long as he wasn't the first. Quite possibly a better bet electorally than joining Labour for quite a few (like Clegg)

 

[little_legs]

so will the yellow tories continue to prop up the tories if they lose their AV referendum?