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When will the lib dem split happen?

When will the split happen?

  • Next week

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • By the end of 2010

    Votes: 3 4.6%
  • By the end of next year

    Votes: 34 52.3%
  • By the end of the term

    Votes: 8 12.3%
  • At some other point

    Votes: 5 7.7%
  • NEVER !!!!!!!! OUR DEAR MASTER LOVES US HE WILL NEVER BETRAY US

    Votes: 15 23.1%

  • Total voters
    65
By the way I think that the mods, quite rightly, find messing around with user-names very childish.

Louis MacNeice

I've addressed butcher as 'butcher' since these boards were just green fields. No-one has any reason to object to a simple shortening of someone's name, have they, Loo.
 
Actually fuck loads of them, in all likelihood a majority, pay a smaller proportion of their income in tax than the average worker does.
i'd be astonished - as would every accountant you know - if it wasn't a clear and sizeable majority. Also, thank you for saving me the trouble of nailing toryboy's latest idiocy
 
And your point was?

That you're an amusingly inconsistent, un-self aware figure of fun:

I am a figure of fun
obsessive, dead-pan and moribund...
...I have no luck in love
I have no luck in anything
I am a figure of fun
and I'm impressed by everyone
but I impress no-one
it's irritating
I am a figure of fun.​

Keep performing L&L

Cheers - Louis MacNeice
 
err no - basic constitutional theory, as eveolved over 7 centuries of parliament

I know all that. But when I'm commenting on the actions of this parliament, I feel it is excused to use some shorthand. Saying "the people elected the parliament" might not be legally 100% accurate, but in this sort of conversation I feel it is perfectly adequate.
 
That you're an amusingly inconsistent, un-self aware figure of fun:

I am a figure of fun
obsessive, dead-pan and moribund...
...I have no luck in love
I have no luck in anything
I am a figure of fun
and I'm impressed by everyone
but I impress no-one
it's irritating
I am a figure of fun.​

Keep performing L&L

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

That's a point you have made very badly.
 
I know all that. But when I'm commenting on the actions of this parliament, I feel it is excused to use some shorthand. Saying "the people elected the parliament" might not be legally 100% accurate, but in this sort of conversation I feel it is perfectly adequate.

Yes you do now and you should really say thank you for the education...of course you won't, but you should.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice
 
I know all that. But when I'm commenting on the actions of this parliament, I feel it is excused to use some shorthand. Saying "the people elected the parliament" might not be legally 100% accurate, but in this sort of conversation I feel it is perfectly adequate.
well yes, but one has to take into account the huge regional variations that affect voter psychology and behaviour, and that also delineates the difference between electing an MP and a Parliament
 
Oh fucking hell, what's the point of that useless cunt Lock&Light? What a boring, tedious twat it is. Couldn't somebody just ban it? If not i may have to stamp on its head until it die dies.
 
well yes, but one has to take into account the huge regional variations that affect voter psycho.logy and heaviour, anjd that also delineate the difference between electing an MP and a Parliament

I wasn't discussing democracy, you know? I was discussing the motivations of the LibDems in the circumstances of a hung parliament, howsoever it might have been elected. Their motivation being a substantial part of any discussion based on when that party might split apart.
 
My record is straight, cuts are needed but I don't think they should unfairly target the poorest and neediest. They should be above the board, those with the broadest shoulders should contribute the most.
You WHAAAT?? That is exactly who they are targeting, as a deliberate intention of the Coalition. The wealthy, the bankers and the boardrooms are as ever escaping lightly. This is straightforward redistribution from poor, and from people like you, to the rich - the thatcherite dream.
Moon, WAKE UP, FFS! YOU ARE BEING BOTH USED AND SHAFTED, YOU UTTER MUG! Talk about turkeys voting for xmas.:facepalm:
 
Oh fucking hell, what's the point of that useless cunt Lock&Light? What a boring, tedious twat it is. Couldn't somebody just ban it? If not i may have to stamp on its head until it die dies.

Being tedious is not a bannable offense. Threatening/abusive posts are. Please find a nicer way of saying you diagree. Thank you.
 
Dear Lock&Light

I profoundly disagree with everything about you and I personally think that people of your persuasion should be confined to algebra conferences, Jeremy Clarkson book signings and enya concerts. Everthing about your posting style repulses me to my very core, so much so that I included a little exaggerated referential humour in one of my replies to you. Kindly do foxtrot oscar and please, please, pwetty please never return.

Have a nice day

Jeff xxx
 
Dear Lock&Light

I profoundly disagree with everything about you and I personally think that people of your persuasion should be confined to algebra conferences, Jeremy Clarkson book signings and enya concerts. Everthing about your posting style repulses me to my very core, so much so that I included a little exaggerated referential humour in one of my replies to you. Kindly do foxtrot oscar and please, please, pwetty please never return.

Have a nice day

Jeff xxx

Well said.
 
This thread has provided a classic example of how certain posters on Urban view discussion. They like to pontificate and love adoration, but do not take a very tolerant view on dissention. They do not try to argue or discuss the statements and comments of heretics. They try to browbeat with constant repetition of accusations of mistaken facts, without making any effort to point out where such mistakes might occur. This is because, when it comes down to it, the ‘mistaken facts’ usually turn out to be of very little consequence. By using these methods they have made many avoid the politics forums, and probably driven great numbers of prospective posters from ever signing up. They are self-satisfied and puffed up with their own importance, reminding me of degenerates applauding the demise of civilization.
 
This thread has provided a classic example of how certain posters on Urban view discussion. They like to pontificate and love adoration, but do not take a very tolerant view on dissention. They do not try to argue or discuss the statements and comments of heretics. They try to browbeat with constant repetition of accusations of mistaken facts, without making any effort to point out where such mistakes might occur. This is because, when it comes down to it, the ‘mistaken facts’ usually turn out to be of very little consequence. By using these methods they have made many avoid the politics forums, and probably driven great numbers of prospective posters from ever signing up. They are self-satisfied and puffed up with their own importance, reminding me of degenerates applauding the demise of civilization.

Translation: L&L's ignorance was shown up and they'd like to draw attention away from their clanging empty vessel.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice
 
I wasn't discussing democracy, you know? I was discussing the motivations of the LibDems in the circumstances of a hung parliament, howsoever it might have been elected. Their motivation being a substantial part of any discussion based on when that party might split apart.
well that's easy to nail, straight away. When it comes to economic and fiscal policy, you couldn't get a rizla between the tax/spend policies of the millionaires leading the libdems and the millionaires leading the tories that going into coalition was the easiest decision both lots ever had to make. They are not - either of them - doing this reluctantly, 'because they have to', but becuase they want to. They believe in all of this, passionately. becuase they are both chicagoesque neoliberals.
 
I have read this thread. However I am still unclear as to when the Lib Dem split will appear. Oh silly me. I am talking on topic.

While I am here then I will attempt an answer. They won't split. Just as in the days when Labour slewed off to the right it was always pointed out to those who objected that "There was nowhere else to go" and attempts to create somewhere else to go have been unsuccessful to date.

If people in the Labour party who have a clear understanding of their own politics couldn't form a new party then the Lib Dems who almost by definition have no politics, will not be able to form a split off party. They will do the same as the majority of 'Old Labour' supporters, just drop out of involvement in politics.
 
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