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Welsh fight for independence from UK bolstered by ‘clown’ Boris Johnson

Well I was actually going towards drops in crime, NHS improvements and diverting funds to those suffering benefit cuts.

But you be you.
Even with this I'm still not clear what your random seeming posts mean. In fact less clear
 
There was a segment on Welsh independence on channel 4 news tonight. You can probably get it on their i-player thing. Last item but it was quite long. They had a bit of film from your march the other day mwgdrwg
 
Interesting that the main focus of this article is Wales and yet it makes no mention of the 8,000 or so people that marched for independence in Caernarfon.

How Boris Johnson could trigger the breakup of the United Kingdom | Martin Kettle
Weird piece. Substance is on the material conditions that would make calls for independence louder, although mostly about farmers, before ending with some bollocks about a dead prince most Welsh people don't care about and a large chunk don't even know about
 
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after recent events in the persian gulf i don't think anyone can really sing 'rule, britannia' with any honesty
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Obvious things you never realised...

A) what an absolute cunt of a piss taking song that is. I’d never seen the lyrics.

B) I’d always thought it was ‘rules’ not ‘rule’. So it’s an exhortation rather than a statement of fact as it were.

Given how Britain behaved ruling the waves, it’s pure cuntery. Like I said, obvious things etc.
 
Obvious things you never realised...

A) what an absolute cunt of a piss taking song that is. I’d never seen the lyrics.

B) I’d always thought it was ‘rules’ not ‘rule’. So it’s an exhortation rather than a statement of fact as it were.

Given how Britain behaved ruling the waves, it’s pure cuntery. Like I said, obvious things etc.
the way it's often sung (from what i've heard) is 'rule britannia - britannia rules the waves'
 
the way it's often sung (from what i've heard) is 'rule britannia - britannia rules the waves'

Indeed. So not only do 100% of its singers not know the verses, they don’t even get the chorus right.

But with heaven and angels on your side, being blessed, great, free, the envy of everyone, majestic, generous and renowned I guess it doesn’t matter.
 
The idea wrexham voted leave because of incomers is fuckheaded and absolutely poisonous. Only five constituencies voted remain and that includes fucking monmouthshire, the vale, and cardiff, hotbeds of welsh speaking welsh with very few english incomers obviously
 
Really shouldn't be that hard to understand why the valleys and the north east wales constituencies voted leave while monmouthshire and the vale of glamorgan voted remain either. Fucks sake. Was there a language divide? Probably yeah, with likes of Gwynedd and Ceridigion having politics atypical compared to rest of wales. But incomers, fuck off.
 
The idea wrexham voted leave because of incomers is fuckheaded and absolutely poisonous...
Why's that?

Why is it poisonous? The idea that a group of people would over-all vote similarly?

Why does it have to escalate to poison? Why can't it just be a fact without becoming heated or contentious?

The article says

Areas of Wales with big English communities had larger leave vote in 2016, according to study

That shouldn't be contentions to anybody living in the UK just now.
 
Dorling argues against the use of wide area statistics hiding inequality in his other work. He did exactly this here. All the poor places in the areas he claims are simply anti brexit in fact voted to leave. Every working class area in emblematic Bristol voted leave apart from Barton Hill.
 
Any analysis of the Welsh Brexit vote starting from a viewpoint of 'born in Wales/born in England' deserves being covered in chips with a large dose of salt before being thrown in the bin.
 
Any analysis of the Welsh Brexit vote starting from a viewpoint of 'born in Wales/born in England' deserves being covered in chips with a large dose of salt before being thrown in the bin.
Indeed, it's bizarre to hear it from this quarter though. Someone who is a mainstay of the newish let's get class on the table left.
 
Why's that?

Why is it poisonous? The idea that a group of people would over-all vote similarly?

Why does it have to escalate to poison? Why can't it just be a fact without becoming heated or contentious?

The article says



That shouldn't be contentions to anybody living in the UK just now.
It can't be a fact because it isn't you fucking idiot
 
Indeed, it's bizarre to hear it from this quarter though. Someone who is a mainstay of the newish let's get class on the table left.

Right. I never knew this. That does just make it worse.

I just read 'Oxford Professor ' and merge them all into one. My prejudice.
 
It can't be a fact because it isn't you fucking idiot
What's wrong with saying that English people are more likely to vote for brexit? It's a fucking fact. They have, in fact, majority-wise, voted for it.

It's not contentious. It's fucking conclusive.
 
What's wrong with saying that English people are more likely to vote for brexit? It's a fucking fact. They have, in fact, majority-wise, voted for it.

It's not contentious. It's fucking conclusive.
It's not a fact or conclusive as demonstrated by, you know, wales. If you had any clue about wales you'd know how silly an argument this incomer bollocks is when monmouthshire, cardiff and the vale had a remain majority while rhondda and cynon valley had a leave majority. But you don't have a clue. So fuck off.
 
It's not a fact or conclusive as demonstrated by, you know, wales. If you had any clue about wales you'd know how silly an argument this incomer bollocks is when monmouthshire, cardiff and the vale had a remain majority while rhondda and cynon valley had a leave majority. But you don't have a clue. So fuck off.
heh

I was going to (had done) a retort but then I reread your post and decided not to bother.

No-one but you mentioned 'incomers' (twice) (that's racist) btw.

If you can't discuss things without that kind of shite then I won't fuck off from the thread but you're not worth responding to.
 
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