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Welsh fight for independence from UK bolstered by ‘clown’ Boris Johnson

heh

I was going to (had done) a retort but then I reread your post and decided not to bother.

No-one but you mentioned 'incomers' (twice) (that's racist) btw.

If you can't discuss things without that kind of shite then I won't fuck off from the thread but you're not worth responding to.
You're an idiot
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No mate, you're an idiot. And I doubt many in Wales read the times (afaik it's paywalled anyway). You carry on, seems to be up your street.

Anyway...tell me what it is that rupert murdoch so much wants to tell people.

Yeah, everybody in wales works in a steelworks and reads the mirror. It's a screenshot from the article we're (everybody else) is discussing you bell
 
Some brief thoughts on Wales and Brexit

The above piece by Dan Evans, sociologist and podcaster with Desolation Radio debunks the "English people caused Welsh Brexit" reports and has a lot of thoughtful and interesting stuff to say about the Welsh context of the Leave vote.
Nailed it:
Whilst there is some truth to all these analyses- and indeed they are often combined together as people try to make sense of it all- focusing on them can obfuscate the most glaringly obvious reasons as to why people voted to leave: capitalism has destroyed Wales, ‘politics’ has failed Wales, devolution has failed to do what it promised to do, and that most people (whether Welsh or English) were upset about being ignored and exploited. Sometimes the most obvious explanation is the right one: the leave vote in Wales was a vote for political change rooted in material conditions and exposure to austerity.
Brexit is the logical outcome of alienation from the political and economic system. Whilst the Welsh ‘devolution industry’ ignores established academic norms that decreasing turnout in elections represent symptoms of distrust and a rejection of politics, there are other, ‘non-political’ indicators that we live in a deeply broken country. How about the rapidly increasing suicide rate or the mass dependence on painkillers?
 
New poll: 40% want independence


The Savanta ComRes poll for the Tonight programme found:

  • 53% of Scots would leave the UK, with 71% believing the country would fare better without being part of the UK
  • 39% of people in Wales are now in favour of independence - the highest levels of support for Welsh independence ever recorded
  • 43% of people in Northern Ireland would vote to unify with the Republic of Ireland, with 72% reasoning that the country is historically Irish
  • More than a third of older English adults (36% aged 55+) stated they would not care at all if Scotland became an independent country



This is interesting
Yes to that
 
New poll: 40% want independence


The Savanta ComRes poll for the Tonight programme found:

  • 53% of Scots would leave the UK, with 71% believing the country would fare better without being part of the UK
  • 39% of people in Wales are now in favour of independence - the highest levels of support for Welsh independence ever recorded
  • 43% of people in Northern Ireland would vote to unify with the Republic of Ireland, with 72% reasoning that the country is historically Irish
  • More than a third of older English adults (36% aged 55+) stated they would not care at all if Scotland became an independent country



This is interesting
Yes to that
That smells like Welsh Labour shitting bricks that Plaid will give them a good (and well deserved) fucking and trying to undercut them
 
The highest levels of support for Welsh independence ever recorded! Very encouraging...
I was talking about Radical Federalism as an organisation, rather than the poll. Drakeford is also pushing for greater devolutionary powers as well, but that's cos the cunt just wants to keep his job.
 
That smells like Welsh Labour shitting bricks that Plaid will give them a good (and well deserved) fucking and trying to undercut them
That makes sense but its not totally impossible to imagine someone in the Labour party genuinely being a federalist. Either way it raises federalism up the agenda <a good thing i think
 
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