Welsh fight for independence from UK bolstered by ‘clown’ Boris Johnson

[SpineyNorman]

Boris cares about nothing but if he cared about something it wouldn't be Wales

Brilliant

Unless of course the thing he cared about in this completely hypothetical world you just made up was Wales, didn't consider that did you?

 

[mwgdrwg]

Afaics (but could be wrong) Republicanism in Wales pretty much finished with on the one hand the end of Meibion Glyndwr and on the other Cymru Goch's liquidation.

All I've seen (from a distance) since then is the cosplay bloggers.

 

[Benjy1992]

You really can't blame Wales or Scotland for wanting independence. Who wouldn't want to get away from Boris and Brexit?

 

[chilango]

Ta. Interesting.

My posts were about groups organising beyond Plaid and whether that distinct Republican tradition (that had both leftist and more conservative tendencies) was undergoing any sort of a revival since I last looked.

 

[SpineyNorman]

You really can't blame Wales or Scotland for wanting independence. Who wouldn't want to get away from Boris and Brexit?

I'll only support Scottish independence if they agree to annex Yorkshire and North Derbyshire. If they do that I have no problem painting my face blue and screaming freedom at their command.

 

[butchersapron]

You really can't blame Wales or Scotland for wanting independence. Who wouldn't want to get away from Boris and Brexit?

It could be corbyn. It would not matter to this mind. Well done left winger.

 

[teqniq]

meanwhile...

 

[mwgdrwg]

Yes master, no master, anywhere you please master.

 

[8ball]

meanwhile...

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I'm pretty sure that has to be a veiled insult. Surely.

 

[Ax^]

You really can't blame Wales or Scotland for wanting independence. Who wouldn't want to get away from Boris and Brexit?

the Welsh voted in support of Brexit or did I read the results wrong

 

[8ball]

the Welsh voted in support of Brexit or did I read the results wrong

Guess so. Loads of them didn't.

 

[Proper Tidy]

the Welsh voted in support of Brexit or did I read the results wrong

People as national blocks is dangerous thinking whatever angle it comes from

 

[mwgdrwg]

the Welsh voted in support of Brexit or did I read the results wrong

As did most of the poorest areas in England, the ones that actually benefit from the EU.

Ground into the dirt, fed a new bogey man, and desperate to be heard.

 

[butchersapron]

As did most of the poorest areas in England, the ones that actually benefit from the EU.

Ground into the dirt, fed a new bogey man, and desperate to be heard.

Worse than worms.

Where do you think the EU money comes from ffs.

 

[Gromit]

Welsh football crowd (as in the people who follow the national team, the red wall etc) has become overwhelmingly pro independence in last few years.

I'm a card carrying member of the red wall. This is news to me.
Source?

 

[Gromit]

As did most of the poorest areas in England, the ones that actually benefit from the EU.

Ground into the dirt, fed a new bogey man, and desperate to be heard.

A few years under Brexit austerity with EU funds gone and little to none replaced by Westminster. Wales is going to rue the day.

 

[Plumdaff]

I'm a card carrying member of the red wall. This is news to me.
Source?

There's a pro Indy march of fans down to Cardiff City Stadium every home match, Wales Football Fans for Independence seem pretty active, the Barry Horns very pro Indy, have seen Yes Cymru flags at the last few games I've been at. The culture around supporting Wales does seem to have swung very Indy minded ime.

 

[editor]

meanwhile...

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[editor]

Certainly a lot more activity than a few years ago

Welsh Football Fans For Independence (@indywalesfans) | Twitter
Welsh Football Fans For Independence
Football Fans and Musicians Fuel Growth of Welsh Independence Movement - Brexit Chaos Emboldens Supporters of Independence | Transceltic - Home of the Celtic nations

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Respond to increasing division by seeking increased division. Depressing. What would Welsh 'independence' even look like? It wouldn't really be independence, would it? That's not so different from the brexit 'take back control' nonsense.

 

[mwgdrwg]

A few years under Brexit austerity with EU funds gone and little to none replaced by Westminster. Wales is going to rue the day.

Nah, they (Brexiters) will just blame the EU, Muslims, the poor, the Germans or whoever. That's the message that is going to be force-fed more than ever from now. Like foie gras gammon of hate, they will be bursting at the seams with it.

 

[mwgdrwg]

Worse than worms.

Where do you think the EU money comes from ffs.

Not sure what you are getting at. I'm not a Brexiter, just trying to rationalise why those that benefit from the EU most are the ones that wanted out. If fucking baffles me to be honest.

 

[Poi E]

Respond to increasing division by seeking increased division. Depressing. What would Welsh 'independence' even look like? It wouldn't really be independence, would it? That's not so different from the brexit 'take back control' nonsense.

Just home rule, like loads of other small countries. Not a panacea.

 

[Flavour]

Not sure what you are getting at. I'm not a Brexiter, just trying to rationalise why those that benefit from the EU most are the ones that wanted out. If fucking baffles me to be honest.

mad we even let them have a say innit? a madness!

 

[8ball]

Not sure what you are getting at. I'm not a Brexiter, just trying to rationalise why those that benefit from the EU most are the ones that wanted out. If fucking baffles me to be honest.

They resent being made dependent. Inherent nobility and all that.

 

[editor]

Not sure what you are getting at. I'm not a Brexiter, just trying to rationalise why those that benefit from the EU most are the ones that wanted out. If fucking baffles me to be honest.

I spoke to a few and for them it was an attitude of "surely anything has to be better than what we've got now."

They may get a few shiny EU-funded projects but that's not much use when your village has been decimated by the economy and there's fuck all hope of anything good happening on the horizon.

 

[8ball]

I spoke to a few and for them it was an attitude of "surely anything has to be better than what we've got now."

If it was a learning experience they voted for, they will not be disappointed.

 

[editor]

If it was a learning experience they voted for, they will not be disappointed.

If you know the desperation of some of the Valleys villages, they've pretty much given up anyway.

 

[butchersapron]

Wales has the most stitched up elite in GB. And their path into the elite is being welsh posh. Fire to the eisteddfods. Fire to the taffia. Fight for your class not some made up shit. Help the living, not your memoried dead.

 

[8ball]

If you know the desperation of some of the Valleys villages, they've pretty much given up anyway.

That's not what the word desperation means - that sounds more like resignation.

They actually had a pretty high turnout, didn't they?