Wear masks in shops

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Does seem there's a problem with British tourists not wearing masks, though it isn't only Brits.

Mostly Germans by all accounts. Well, accounts other than the self-hating liberal pricks at the Guardian.

 

[maomao]

So if someone is out of work living on a pittance and hasn’t got a mask/can’t afford one and needs a tin of beans from local shop - will they be refused or fined by mask police £100 they can’t pay?

Someone without an old t-shirt and a pair of scissors? Or a square piece of cloth to wear as a bandana? Surprised they can afford beans. They should be more worried about price rises after Brexit than spending a few pence on a mask which is reusable. My street's COVID whatsapp group has had a few offers to make them for other people already so maybe not the problem you think it is (and yes, there are people looking after the oldies without mobiles in my street).

There are people who genuinely can't wear masks for medical reasons. I'd be a bit more worried about them to tell the truth.

 

[LDC]

Imagine many shops will have masks on hand to give out to people that turn up without one. Be better for their business rather than people being turned away I'd have thought.

 

[maomao]

Same with hand sanitiser.

One of my local shopping malls (The Mercury) has put hand sanitiser pumps on all the walls in the last week or so but they were all bloody empty yesterday.

 

[Roadkill]

Mostly Germans by all accounts. Well, accounts other than the self-hating liberal pricks at the Guardian.

Is it really so hard to believe that pissed-up British teens in Magaluf aren't being all that careful?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Is it really so hard to believe that pissed-up British teens in Magaluf aren't being all that careful?

Not when there’s hardly any there, no. We will be there and won’t be careful, but so far it’s nearly all German yoots running amok there.

 

[Roadkill]

Not when there’s hardly any there, no. We will be there and won’t be careful, but so far it’s nearly all German yoots running amok there.

Okay, so more Germans than Brits, but it's hardly surprising the Graun emphasises the latter, is it, given that a) it's a British paper, and b) as restrictions on travel ease there'll be more of them and the problem will likely grow.

 

[Badgers]

Am glad they waited for the daily death toll to drop from 1000ish to 100ish before deciding to do this

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Okay, so more Germans than Brits, but it's hardly surprising the Graun emphasises the latter, is it, given that a) it's a British paper, and b) as restrictions on travel ease there'll be more of them and the problem will likely grow.

c) They are no better than the red top clickbate shit rags these days.

 

[Roadkill]

c) They are no better than the red top clickbate shit rags these days.

I'll get my news from the Daily Express in future, then.

 

[emanymton]

Does this apply to staff as well? I have never seen a single staff member in a shop with a mask on. Can't say I blame them I wouldn't want to work all day in a mask.

 

[Badgers]

Does this apply to staff as well? I have never seen a single staff member in a shop with a mask on. Can't say I blame them I wouldn't want to work all day in a mask.

Round here a fair few were wearing masks earlier in the global pandemic but this has tailed off to almost zero.

Chemist staff have been 100% wearing masks all the way through but supermarkets and retail have pretty much all stopped bothering.

 

[not a trot]

So what about the workplace. Millions will work in close proximity to others for hours eachday, are they now going to be forced to wear a mask.

 

[Voley]

Just been in my local supermarket and was surprised to see 100% compliance from both customers and staff - before it was only ever about 30% of people wearing a mask but now it's mandatory everyone is just getting on with it.

I really wish we'd had your government throughout this weeps. My lunchbreak tends to coincide with Nicola Sturgeon's daily briefing and almost every time I've sat there thinking 'My God, a politician who actually has a clue what she's doing.'

 

[emanymton]

So what about the workplace. Millions will work in close proximity to others for hours eachday, are they now going to be forced to wear a mask.

Most workplaces don't have a constant stream of strangers going through all day.

 

[Celyn]

Yes, I agree, sort of. The mask thing. It can be quite horrible. I went to a hospital yesterday and wore what I thought would be a good quality mask. I was so much struggling to breathe with it that the security doormen and volunteers who are there to tell people that they must wear masks were soon saying

"Ah, we will find a chair for you. Please sit down. Look, take off the mask. It will be all right. Now, could we get you a drink of water or something? No, not any visiting happening just yet" They were explaining that hospital visiting is mostly not happening, and I was explaining that I had brought a document that the doctors, nurses etc wanted me to bring. With that particular mask, it was very very unpleasant. Switched to a very cheapo mask, which meets requirements in that it minimises amount of bad Covid 19 that I might breathe on other people then things were easier. I then, because it was beside the train station, went into an Aldi shop, and it was really quite good knowing that everybody was attempting the distancing thing, and wearing face coverings.

BUT this was a reply to a message that tonysingh posted. Gremlins have eaten the actual meaning. (Celyn goes to sulk)

 

[Badgers]

Yes, I agree, sort of. The mask thing. It can be quite horrible. I went to a hospital yesterday and wore what I thought would be a good quality mask. I was so much struggling to breathe with it that the security doormen and volunteers who are there to tell people that they must wear masks were soon saying

Better than dying or causing others to die though?

 

[Artaxerxes]

Death of the high street due to masks. Bollocks, I didn't want to see your fucking face before Coronavirus.

 

[Pickman's model]

Most workplaces don't have a constant stream of strangers going through all day.

Depends how well you know your colleagues

 

[Chilli.s]

Went out to the town center yesterday, less than 10% mask wearers in shops and fewer on street. As a nation (or whatever collective term) it seems being told what to do is the only way.

 

[Celyn]

I really wish we'd had your government throughout this weeps. My lunchbreak tends to coincide with Nicola Sturgeon's daily briefing and almost every time I've sat there thinking 'My God, a politician who actually has a clue what she's doing.'

She's certainly a bit more trustworthy than Boris Johnson. I think she's pretty good, really. Then again, the average Oh-I-don't know-what-possibly-a-brainless-thing-that-lives-in-a sea somewhere might qualify for that. I don't know. Possibly a whelk or some such? Have people investigated whether we could deport him back to his home country, the land of his birth?

 

[Celyn]

Better than dying or causing others to die though?

Yes! Absolutely.

 

[maomao]

There were a lot of masks in Asda yesterday. But I do go early. I did an early afternoon trip to the bank the other day and apart from queues outside shops it looked no different to same time last year.

I am looking forward to going to the bank with my face covered though. Could solve a lot of financial problems.

 

[Pickman's model]

Went out to the town center yesterday, less than 10% mask wearers in shops and fewer on street. As a nation (or whatever collective term) it seems being told what to do is the only way.

perhaps people should have the options clearly explained, offered the opportunity to make a decision and supplied with the equipment needed for their choice

But we have a government which mixes messages and obfuscates.

If being told now is the only way perhaps it is always the only way.

 

[Sprocket.]

I would have been wearing a mask in shops anyway. But the palaver between Gove‘s statements and Johnson’s was ridiculous, did they decide the path to follow by rock, paper, scissors.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

The thing I have always liked in Japan is that wearing a mask isn't about stoping you catching something, it's about stopping others catching what you have, or think you might be getting/developing. Yes people do where masks as prevention, but it's not common, and perhaps only really for hayfever.

 

[Celyn]

There seems to be a particularly English pedantry/deliberate awkwardness about this whole mask thing. The number of times I've heard the 'wearing a mask makes you touch your face more' thing. No it doesn't. In fact having a bloody great mask on it helps you remember not to touch it if anything. And I've heard government 'scientists' twice come out with the line 'well 80% of infections are at home so you'd have to wear them at home as well' NO YOU FUCKING WOULDN'T, in fact it means that every infection stopped outside the home stops four more at home! At least the American nutters who won't wear them are doing it to fight communism or something. Meanwhile the English aren't because they think it's 'silly'. Wankers.

This stuff is just retrospective justification when it's not mandated but people have heard it might be a good idea so feel the need to say something that defends their everyday position. As soon as it's mandated, in 95% of cases folk will be all "oh well of course it's sensible" and pretend they were always in favour, for the exact same reasons. There's no real ideological push against masks in the UK imo, just a few loons - it's just avoiding the old cognitive dissonance.

I am slightly amused that when maomao suggested an English (possible) antipathy to using face masks/coverings, you point out that there is "no real ideological push against masks in the UK". Well, there probably isn't, and in Scotland it is already the thing to wear a face mask on public transport and in shops. I am sure you were not confusing "UK" with "England", of course.

 

[maomao]

Am I paranoid thinking that the 11 day wait for what is a really simple instruction that everyone's had months to prepare for is primarily to allow some of their mates to get a good angle on it and make a couple of quid? Expect Cummings and Gove brand masks in a shop near you soon.

 

[MickiQ]

I really wish we'd had your government throughout this weeps. My lunchbreak tends to coincide with Nicola Sturgeon's daily briefing and almost every time I've sat there thinking 'My God, a politician who actually has a clue what she's doing.'

The Janey Godley voiceovers are brilliant, I'm sure that's what Sturgeon is thinking and really wishes she could say out loud.

 

[maomao]

I am slightly amused that when maomao suggested an English (possible) antipathy to using face masks/coverings, you point out that there is "no real ideological push against masks in the UK". Well, there probably isn't, and in Scotland it is already the thing to wear a face mask on public transport and in shops. I am sure you were not confusing "UK" with "England", of course.

I wasn't confusing them for a second. When you grow up in England with a Scottish mum you learn not to.