Scab shops

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I'm pretty sure that the introduction of modern plumbing was a massive positive that benefitted everyone not just the rich even if some people lost their jobs as a direct result of it.
The thing is Luddism just doesn't work, technology which is probably the most single driver of social change marches inexorably on and nothing can stop it or even slow it down. Where we fail as a society is not accepting this is inevitable and find things for the people who lose their jobs to do. We need to think as a society about what we are going to do with the people who lose their jobs to progress not just leaving it to each individual to retrain/live in a cave/find another dead end job.
This situation is only going to escalate, with a few notable exceptions every repetitive job is going to be automated out of existence over the next 20 or 30 years.

It's progress innit I suppose. Once the genie is out of the bottle. What will all the workers that lose their jobs do, become carers? Doubtful. Will it mean a better work life balance even?
Besides it good for some people's mental health to speak to others.

 

[Funky_monks]

Aldi's first scab shop is on Greenwich High Road and you'll be glad to know that things are not going well. The retail space is a former Coop which became a Costcutter and then a poudshop and the adjacent chicken shop. They started converting the building in August 2020 and finished building works about a year later. It was announced that they were opening in October last year which was then put back to November. It still isn't open but they've had full shelves including perishables on and off since the autumn. Hordes of pseudoshoppers turn up every other week or so to trial the system, and then go away again.

The sad pictures of nothing much happening are from earlier this afternoon

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Weird, it seems rather contrary to Aldis usual business MO.

 

[hash tag]

Aldi don't do home delivery; perhaps they would rather focus on something like this.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

If they’re going to extract profit from communities then the least they can do is give back jobs. Rather than get rid of all staff except security guards protecting profits.

 

[Funky_monks]

Aldi don't do home delivery; perhaps they would rather focus on something like this.

Maybe - they are do traditionally pay their staff well and view working for them as a career, which is why I was interested to see that.

 

[SpookyFrank]

People need jobs!

People need resources and they need productive and rewarding things to do. 'Jobs' are a reliable source of neither.

 

[mentalchik]

Of course it will come in....self service will expand and therefore less staff will be needed, the idea that some people seem to have that by boycotting self service and loudly pronouncing that they do this on principle is going to make any difference is almost laughable.....checkouts can be replaced by 'hybrid' self scans then all you will need is a few staff to keep an eye....and i say this as someone who works on the checkout area at a supermarket.....mostly shoplifters don't tend to come through any sort of checkout

 

[mentalchik]

Aldi don't do home delivery; perhaps they would rather focus on something like this.

They do offer click and collect so it will probably come at some point

 

[hash tag]

Thinking about this, Aldi clearly dont have or want the infrastructure or maybe the expense of home delivery. A shop like this looks like it fits in with their game plan.
Yes I know that boycotting these things will make no difference but I will still have a clear conscience.

 

[teuchter]

Why do people get worked up about these "scab shops" or "scab tills" but not about "scab transport" (where people drive their own car instead of providing employment for public transport workers)?

 

[Pickman's model]

Why do people get worked up about these "scab shops" or "scab tills" but not about "scab transport" (where people ride their own cycle or drive their own car instead of providing employment for public transport workers)?

corrected for you

 

[hash tag]

A contextual failure.
The closest you could get to a scab car are some of the dodgy mini cabs around or self driving cars?

 

[teuchter]

A contextual failure.
The closest you could get to a scab car are some of the dodgy mini cabs around or self driving cars?

No, it's where anyone does a journey they could have done by public transport, and does the driving themselves.

Obviously someone who drives to work during a train or bus strike is even worse.

 

[MickiQ]

Why do people get worked up about these "scab shops" or "scab tills" but not about "scab transport" (where people drive their own car instead of providing employment for public transport workers)?

Me owning a car contributes to a great deal of employment, apart from the very well paid jobs in Neckarsulm where it was built, it helps to provide work for the mechanics who service and MOT it (local jobs as well since I don't use a national chain), the clerical staff at the DVLC (including our very own William of Walworth) and the insurance company who handle all the relevant paperwork. I'm setting aside money to buy another so it is creating investment (I'm presuming the bank doesn't just let it gather dust). It even provides employment for the people who futilely point laser guns at me only to discover I am dutifully obeying the speed limit.

 

[teuchter]

corrected for you

Nope, journeys possible by non motorised transport are in a separate category.

 

[teuchter]

Me owning a car contributes to a great deal of employment, apart from the very well paid jobs in Neckarsulm where it was built, it helps to provide work for the mechanics who service and MOT it (local jobs as well since I don't use a national chain), the clerical staff at the DVLC (including our very own William of Walworth) and the insurance company who handle all the relevant paperwork. I'm setting aside money to buy another so it is creating investment (I'm presuming the bank doesn't just let it gather dust). It even provides employment for the people who futilely point laser guns at me only to discover I am dutifully obeying the speed limit.

All those people could be employed building and maintaining a public transport system instead. For the benefit of all, not the privileged few.

 

[souljacker]

Nope, journeys possible by non motorised transport are in a separate category.

Scab tandem riders?

 

[Pickman's model]

Nope, journeys possible by non motorised transport are in a separate scab category.

C4U

 

[Pickman's model]

A contextual failure.
The closest you could get to a scab car are some of the dodgy mini cabs around or self driving cars?

I don't know what you've done to teuchter to make him piss on your thread like this

 

[hash tag]

I don't know what you've done to teuchter to make him piss on your thread like this

It's teuchter all over I guess. But hey ho, the bigger person will turn the other cheek, sigh, and move on.

 

[BristolEcho]

I'm pretty sure that the introduction of modern plumbing was a massive positive that benefitted everyone not just the rich even if some people lost their jobs as a direct result of it.
The thing is Luddism just doesn't work, technology which is probably the most single driver of social change marches inexorably on and nothing can stop it or even slow it down. Where we fail as a society is not accepting this is inevitable and find things for the people who lose their jobs to do. We need to think as a society about what we are going to do with the people who lose their jobs to progress not just leaving it to each individual to retrain/live in a cave/find another dead end job.
This situation is only going to escalate, with a few notable exceptions every repetitive job is going to be automated out of existence over the next 20 or 30 years.

Not all technology "advances" benefit the people using them and society, but are mainly focused at maximising profits. Not all of them will be progresses for the majority of people. I'm not including shops in this necessarily as I hate them anyway and avoid using them.

 

[MickiQ]

All those people could be employed building and maintaining a public transport system instead. For the benefit of all, not the privileged few.

77% of UK households (81% of the population) have access to a car hardly a privilege restricted to the few

 

[WouldBe]

All those people could be employed building and maintaining a public transport system instead. For the benefit of all, not the privileged few.

All those people would be almost capable of building and maintaining enough busses for each car driver to have one each so they wouldn't need bus drivers to drive them they could drive them themselves.

 

[teuchter]

All those people would be almost capable of building and maintaining enough busses for each car driver to have one each so they wouldn't need bus drivers to drive them they could drive them themselves.

If we were left with surplus of mechanics we could employ them to build and maintain life saving equipment in hospitals for sick children instead.

 

[NoXion]

Why do people get worked up about these "scab shops" or "scab tills" but not about "scab transport" (where people drive their own car instead of providing employment for public transport workers)?

Because you're talking bollocks again.

 

[WouldBe]

If we were left with surplus of mechanics we could employ them to build and maintain life saving equipment in hospitals for sick children instead.

Most of that equipment is high tech electronics which is not something your average mechanic is capable of.

 

[Pickman's model]

If we were left with surplus of mechanics we could employ them to build and maintain life saving equipment in hospitals for sick children instead.

If we had a surplus of mechanics there would already be sufficient working in that area

 

[Raheem]

After everyone's lost their job, it will be all about roboconsumers popping to Aldi to buy cryptofood.

 

[MickiQ]

Because you're talking bollocks again.

Got it in one

Funnily enough I met a guy who built MRI scanners a few years ago, he told me that they make three or four a year which is more than adequate to meet demand, I would imagine high tech paediatric equipment has a comparable market.
Annual car production in the UK is a tad under a million a year.

 

[A380]

Henry Ford: "Good luck getting my new machines to join your union."
Union leader: "Good luck getting them to buy your cars"...