Wear masks in shops

[Saul Goodman]

How’s your 3D printed version coming along?

Cats
I left it printing last night with cats in the room. One of them decided to investigate, and I got up today to a ball of plastic wool.
It's printing again now. Third time lucky.
I should have done a time lapse.

 

[8ball]

Cats
I left it printing last night with cats in the room. One of them decided to investigate, and I got up today to a ball of plastic wool.
It's printing again now. Third time lucky.
I should have done a time lapse.

If you get your cats a real ball of wool to play with, they might not feel the need to commandeer your 3d printer.

 

[Yossarian]

I don't get why the early advice on hand-washing, keeping surfaces clean etc. seems to have stuck with people but the later finding that surfaces are an unusual route of transmission and it is far more common to be infected from an unmasked infected person breathing near you hasn't seemed to sink in as well.

 

[8ball]

I don't get why the early advice on hand-washing, keeping surfaces clean etc. seems to have stuck with people but the later finding that surfaces are an unusual route of transmission and it is far more common to be infected from an unmasked infected person breathing near you hasn't seemed to sink in as well.

It will certainly be more common to be infected that way if you've already sorted the surfaces and no one is wearing masks.
I'm finding it hard to pinpoint at what point thinking died out.

 

[existentialist]

It'd certainly be a talking point

Not from what I've heard

 

[existentialist]

If you get your cats a real ball of wool to play with, they might not feel the need to commandeer your 3d printer.

Oh, they will. Cats are cunts.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Oh, they will. Cats are cunts.

Cats look for things to destroy. If there's nothing on the mantelpiece to throw on the floor, they'll take your best brandy glass up there, then lift the carpet to expose the bare concrete, before returning and kicking your glass to the floor.
I love cats but they're proper cunts.

 

[cyril_smear]

Even way before this outbreak, I wasn't super keen on people spitting on my food.

How do ya know though if they don't tell ya

 

[Saul Goodman]

How do ya know though if they don't tell ya

You just have to assume that they did.

 

[8ball]

How do ya know though if they don't tell ya

I didn't say I wasn't super keen on knowing my food had been spat on, but since you are concerned with the epistemic vagaries of it, I'm not too keen on that either.

 

[cyril_smear]

epistemic vagaries

no idea

 

[existentialist]

How do ya know though if they don't tell ya

Well, we have a way of knowing, now. A Covid-19 test. Who says it's all bad?

 

[Artaxerxes]

It will certainly be more common to be infected that way if you've already sorted the surfaces and no one is wearing masks.
I'm finding it hard to pinpoint at what point thinking died out.

Homo Erectus

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I don't get why the early advice on hand-washing, keeping surfaces clean etc. seems to have stuck with people but the later finding that surfaces are an unusual route of transmission and it is far more common to be infected from an unmasked infected person breathing near you hasn't seemed to sink in as well.

Handwashing came along in the early stages before it became completely clear that the government was just making shit up as it went along, and was generally simple and consistent too (no "you don't have to wash your hands if you're working in a shop but you do if you visit a shop except on Sundays or if the moon is full"). It does seem to have sunk in. I think that's ok tbh - even if it turns out it isn't that effective against covid (and things change all the time) it is useful against other diseases, and you don't want flu either.

 

[xenon]

Handwashing came along in the early stages before it became completely clear that the government was just making shit up as it went along, and was generally simple and consistent too (no "you don't have to wash your hands if you're working in a shop but you do if you visit a shop except on Sundays or if the moon is full"). It does seem to have sunk in. I think that's ok tbh - even if it turns out it isn't that effective against covid (and things change all the time) it is useful against other diseases, and you don't want flu either.

I've been wondering if as a positive side effect of all this, general colds, regular flue cases will be down.

For the last 10 - 15 years, since swine flu IIRC, I generally carry hand sanatiser with me when out anyway.

 

[8ball]

no idea

I mean it's the spitting on my food that I'm not a fan of, regardless of whether I know about it.

 

[miss direct]

Went into town today. Hardly anyone wearing a mask, with the exception of Waterstones, where almost everyone was. Interesting. A few people in Primark with them on their chins (what's the point.)

 

[8ball]

Went into town today. Hardly anyone wearing a mask, with the exception of Waterstones, where almost everyone was. Interesting. A few people in Primark with them on their chins (what's the point.)

The 'chin style' is popular round here too.
Followed by the 'under the nose'.

 

[andysays]

...In Germany they've been mandatory in shops for months and I can't believe the UK, which has been affected so much worse, is still dithering about stuff like this.

Some might even wonder if the reason the UK has been affected so much worse is because the government is still dithering about stuff like this

 

[Knotted]

Just properly snapped at a colleague. He's been kind of the worst offender of showing no signs at all of any kind of distance awareness, and of course not wearing mask or visor either. For several days, I have been planning discrete chats or emails in my head to raise this with him directly or with a manager in a more general sense, but just then I felt properly tipped over the edge and shouted: "You really need to stay further away from me!!!"
It just beggars belief, I was thinking if you come any closer, you will be sitting on my lap. And funnily enough, I just observed him across the little square where I am having my lunch buying a coffee from a tented stall. And he literally came right up to it, squashing his body against the bar and then stuck his head under the tent cover and had a good nose around inside...??? The mind boggles.

Almost everybody at my work is like that. Nobody wears masks, they all mill around with each other shaking hands complaining bitterly about the masks in shops policy. "The first thing Boris has done that I disagree with."

 

[8ball]

Some might even wonder if the reason the UK has been affected so much worse is because the government is still dithering about stuff like this

You'd hope they wouldn't wonder for too long before remembering how causality works.

 

[dessiato]

...
"The first thing Boris has done that I disagree with."

That's worrying in itself. There's so much he's fucked up over the last few months and this...?

 

[8ball]

Almost everybody at my work is like that. Nobody wears masks, they all mill around with each other shaking hands complaining bitterly about the masks in shops policy. "The first thing Boris has done that I disagree with."

Not seen this at my work (we are required to wear masks while not at our desks).
What kind of place do you work at?

 

[8ball]

That's worrying in itself. There's so much he's fucked up over the last few months and this...?

It's bizarre how many people can't see Johnson for what he is.

 

[Knotted]

Not seen this at my work (we are required to wear masks while not at our desks).
What kind of place do you work at?

Highways maintenance. All the crews are key workers and have been working throughout the crisis and there's always at least two to a crew in the same truck so strict social distancing has been out of the window from the start. But they could always limit their contact to a one or two other people if there had been any effort to encourage social distancing which there hasn't.

Several in the office including myself are generally working from home but there is a prevailing attitude among the predominantly socially conservative staff that "sensible people" don't wear masks and that it would be good if we all caught it so we didn't have to worry about it anymore. They're still in herd immunity strategy mode. Brexity British rugged individualism. It's odd as health and safety is a big part of the culture now, but the 65,000 dead just hasn't registered.

Edit: Just had someone explode about something somewhere where it says that if you have Covid 19 in March and then get hit by a car in July then it counts as a Covid death. Someone else responds with, "the 45,000 figure is probably half that, bloody leftwing snowflakes with their masks!" That's the kind of place I work at... Need to work from home more.

 

[Knotted]

That's worrying in itself. There's so much he's fucked up over the last few months and this...?

It's really quite scary. But it's in line with what the polls are saying. There's a large bedrock of support not just for the government in general, but for how the government has handled the situation.

 

[Roadkill]

Just because some people are idiots about it doesn't make wearing masks pointless, it's not an all or nothing proposition. Everybody who wears a mask helps and there is no good excuse for not wearing one in crowded indoor places. Look up any reputable science website and they will come down on masks being among the most effective ways to stoping the spread of this virus. In Germany they've been mandatory in shops for months and I can't believe the UK, which has been affected so much worse, is still dithering about stuff like this.

Tbf one of the reasons the UK has been so badly affected is that it has dithered about stuff like this.

I've actually been following quite a bit of the German public health advice rather than British. It's been considerably more thorough, and gives the impression of having been put out by a government and state machine whose main aim has been to suppress infections as far as possible rather than to cover its own arse!

 

[dessiato]

Tbf one of the reasons the UK has been so badly affected is that it has dithered about stuff like this.

I've actually been following quite a bit of the German public health advice rather than British. It's been considerably more thorough, and gives the impression of having been put out by a government and state machine whose main aim has been to suppress infections as far as possible rather than to cover its own arse!

Same here. Without a doubt there’s been mistakes. The prime minister said so, and apologised, which in itself is something to be noted.

I wonder if the main difference is that here the government has a slim majority with a coalition and needs to be more responsive to the public moods and needs.

For myself I’m content enough to follow the Spanish rules, even though a mask when it is 40º is uncomfortable.

 

[William of Walworth]

Bought a box of 50 (disposable) masks from Boots today. Belatedly, admittedly

Not too uncomfortable at all, on a test

Will be ordering a few washable/re-usable cloth masks online ASAP, also.

Mask rules in Wales remain pretty slack for now , but despite today's further delay in my return to work** (by bus ), I still want to be sure that I'm sorted ......
**'Personal consequences' thread

Heading into town today, tbf, I noticed a fair few more people wearing masks in the shopping streets than recently.
Still a minority though.

 

[William of Walworth]

Cats are cunts.

So are you, for that comment!!


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