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Needless to say, he was UKIP.

If he'd been around during the Blitz, he'd probably have been moaning about his God-given right as an Englishman to keep his lights on during blackout.
 
And there have also been reports of people whining that pubs and theatres and cinemas didn't close down in the war, apparently unaware that bombs are not the same thing as an infectious disease.

Also, measures were taken to reduce the danger due to bombing. Theatres in London were mostly closed, football matches were only allowed 50% attendance so that people could evacuate more easily, and the main reason cinemas and pubs were allowed to stay open was that they could easily deal with blackout regulations - having them open helped with morale, sure, but they also weren't a great risk because the threat was different. People generally didn't travel as far to go to the pub or cinema then as they do now.

I'm on a bus for a max of 10 minutes and my mask is off as soon as I disembark.

Shops kick off my sensory issues. I get hot, sweaty, anxious. Because I can barely organise myself, it often takes me much longer to complete a shopping trip. The mask on top of that and..... :(

Would it help to experiment with different kinds of face coverings? I think that's what I'm going to do. Might be worth a try at least.

Do shop staff and bus drivers have to wear them too?

I don't think it's practical or necessary for bus drivers to wear them while driving. They have a perspex screen, they don't come that close to customers, and the driver's cab can get very hot - masks can impede visibility if you're hot and your glasses steam up (almost every bus driver I see wears glasses). More people would be killed by drivers not being able to see than by them not wearing masks.

Surgeons who wear glasses in hot operating rooms have staff to remove their glasses and wipe them for them. Bus drivers don't.

I got a taxi the other taxi. Felt fine and safe in the black cab - the driver's behind a screen and doesn't need to wear a mask. Didn't feel so safe in the Uber my friend insisted on for the next journey. I'm glad he wore a mask and insisted that we did, but it also meant that we couldn't really see he was the driver we'd requested, which has been a safety issue with uber before.

I refer back to my earlier post. Make it mandatory for all customers and make it mandatory for all shops to have a screen up. When staff are behind the screen, no mask. When they're on the shop floor a mask has to be worn. As a shop worker I'd be really happy with this arrangement.

The enforcement angle may awaken the little Hitler that slumbers within :hmm:

That sounds sensible. Well, except that you do actually need to except a few customers and staff.

What would also help, surely, would be increasing the number of breaks for staff, so give them time when they don't have to wear a mask - they can go outside or something. Obvs that is definitely not going to happen.

Requiring shop workers to wear masks as well could open up the idea that all people working in enclosed spaces with others should be wearing masks, and that employers should pay for them. Which I don't think the Tories want to do.

Don't be daft, if they wanted to do this they'd just require employers to provide them then deduct the cost from the workers' pay, like with the covid tests.
 
Just properly snapped at a colleague. :oops: He's been kind of the worst offender of showing no signs at all of any kind of distance awareness, and of course not wearing mask or visor either. For several days, I have been planning discrete chats or emails in my head to raise this with him directly or with a manager in a more general sense, but just then I felt properly tipped over the edge and shouted: "You really need to stay further away from me!!!"
It just beggars belief, I was thinking if you come any closer, you will be sitting on my lap. And funnily enough, I just observed him across the little square where I am having my lunch buying a coffee from a tented stall. And he literally came right up to it, squashing his body against the bar and then stuck his head under the tent cover and had a good nose around inside...??? The mind boggles.
 
Just properly snapped at a colleague. :oops: He's been kind of the worst offender of showing no signs at all of any kind of distance awareness, and of course not wearing mask or visor either. For several days, I have been planning discrete chats or emails in my head to raise this with him directly or with a manager in a more general sense, but just then I felt properly tipped over the edge and shouted: "You really need to stay further away from me!!!"
It just beggars belief, I was thinking if you come any closer, you will be sitting on my lap. And funnily enough, I just observed him across the little square where I am having my lunch buying a coffee from a tented stall. And he literally came right up to it, squashing his body against the bar and then stuck his head under the tent cover and had a good nose around inside...??? The mind boggles.
the stomach turns
 
Just properly snapped at a colleague. :oops: He's been kind of the worst offender of showing no signs at all of any kind of distance awareness, and of course not wearing mask or visor either. For several days, I have been planning discrete chats or emails in my head to raise this with him directly or with a manager in a more general sense, but just then I felt properly tipped over the edge and shouted: "You really need to stay further away from me!!!"
It just beggars belief, I was thinking if you come any closer, you will be sitting on my lap. And funnily enough, I just observed him across the little square where I am having my lunch buying a coffee from a tented stall. And he literally came right up to it, squashing his body against the bar and then stuck his head under the tent cover and had a good nose around inside...??? The mind boggles.

It's easy to forget about distancing. Set your boundaries with people from the start instead of having to lose ya shit.
 
It's easy to forget about distancing. Set your boundaries with people from the start instead of having to lose ya shit.
It's possible (and forgivable) to forget about it occasionally, even while making a conscious effort to do the right thing, but it appears that the entire concept of distancing has passed some people by and they're continuing to behave as if it's all completely unnecessary.

It sounds as if zora's colleague is one of those, and if it takes a bit of shit being lost to point out that their behaviour is unacceptable, so be it.

It shouldn't be necessary to "set boundaries" with every single individual we encounter, especially in a workplace where everyone should have had the guidelines set out to them and be following them
 
I'm really glad I've read this whole thread now (albeit belatedly :oops: ) -- it seems to have become the most active mask-discussion thread :cool:

Lots of good information and discussion, also some helpful advice.
My mask-acquisition plans are active right now :)
 
What is it with the media these days. They take one random fuckwit's tweet and turn it into catastrophic event. I guess it sells papers/subscriptions.

You mean they’re selectively reporting events and opinions so as to reinforce their own political bias? Good god, when did this begin??

On masks, I’ve yet to be in a single shop where anyone else was wearing one, and have been frequently stared at as though I’m a leper or lunatic when I wear my mask in shops. No doubt this will change as mask wearing becomes more widespread, but with it being July and this thing having been ongoing since Feb or March, I do wonder how the hell it’s taken people this long to realise the rather obvious benefits of mask wearing.
 
I haven’t worn a mask at work up to now but since they’ve removed all the arrows it’s a complete free for all so I’ve now ordered a couple. People keep reaching over me and coming really close to me and scowling at them has no effect. Ugh.
 
I haven’t worn a mask at work up to now but since they’ve removed all the arrows it’s a complete free for all so I’ve now ordered a couple. People keep reaching over me and coming really close to me and scowling at them has no effect. Ugh.

Free for all, my pal said the very same.

On the flip of that, the local express store near here has zero distancing, the staff don't give a fuck(it seems), and when I asked one of the staff to cancel something off the scab till he was so close he nearly had his tongue in my mouth. He even grabbed me by the hand to guide me to scanning my bank card!!! I felt violated almost. And yet the same chain about a mile away are controlling the automatic doors from behind the till to ensure people aren't just walking in willy nilly.
 
I did notice that the tiny Tesco Metro near me had completely removed its barrier outside to get people to queue, and had no security on the door any more. (They do have the one way arrows but literally nobody has ever kept to them - if they had, they'd all have ended up in a little huddle by the baby food and tampons in the furthest corner, unable to escape.)

It's odd that they removed the security because, as long as I've lived in the area, that's been the absolute #1 shoplifting (or just "refusing to pay") spot and there has always been security on the door. Have seen more than one fight there.
 
It's odd that they removed the security because, as long as I've lived in the area, that's been the absolute #1 shoplifting (or just "refusing to pay") spot and there has always been security on the door. Have seen more than one fight there.

Oddly enough, the security man has totally disappeared from the local express round here as well. I would have thought that distancing would be a pro shoplifters wet dream?
 
Just come back from my local Tesco Extra. Maybe 5 customers wearing masks, but most of the staff are. No one-way system, though regular announcements about social distancing. The cashier (masked) thanked me for waiting, by which I thought she meant not rushing up when there was a bit of space on the belt from the previous customer, so I asked - apparently, despite all the lines and stickers on the floor telling people where to wait, people bundle in just as soon as they can :rolleyes:
 
Just come back from my local Tesco Extra. Maybe 5 customers wearing masks, but most of the staff are. No one-way system, though regular announcements about social distancing. The cashier (masked) thanked me for waiting, by which I thought she meant not rushing up when there was a bit of space on the belt from the previous customer, so I asked - apparently, despite all the lines and stickers on the floor telling people where to wait, people bundle in just as soon as they can :rolleyes:

the big supermarket up the road has totally scrapped distancing by the looks of it. They still have the arrows, but the security man with the ticker counting people in and out has gone. The other big supermarket(I haven't been for a while) simply had a young woman offering sanitiser spray for the trollies
 
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