waste of DNA sets fire to manchester dogs home

[andysays]

So, according to Urban, this lad is a twat, an idiot, fully aware of his actions and the consequences for these poor dogs, ought to be locked up forever or burnt to death in his cell. He is fully responsible for his actions! But I bet Urban doesn't think he's capable of consenting to sex though.

Yeah, that mono-thought-clique expressing itself again...

 

[Fozzie Bear]

So, according to Urban, this lad is a twat, an idiot, fully aware of his actions and the consequences for these poor dogs, ought to be locked up forever or burnt to death in his cell. He is fully responsible for his actions! But I bet Urban doesn't think he's capable of consenting to sex though.

Yes let's all speculate about his sex life as well. HTH.

 

[ViolentPanda]

How is a 14 year old an idiot? He is not even an adult.

In this oh-so-wonderful state of ours, he's already 4 years past the age of criminal responsibility.

 

[DotCommunist]

creepy last line there Rioted, you had the highground for a minute but then it went weird

 

[farmerbarleymow]

So, according to Urban, this lad is a twat, an idiot, fully aware of his actions and the consequences for these poor dogs, ought to be locked up forever or burnt to death in his cell. He is fully responsible for his actions! But I bet Urban doesn't think he's capable of consenting to sex though.

Stop being such a fucking idiot.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Anyway, it is £578,000 now. I've dropped off 18 tins of pedigree chum at the Manchester Piccadilly ticket office for them.

The little Sainsbury's at the station was almost out of dog food, so I guess the ticket office have been given much of what was in stock.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I think it's possible to feel sympathy for the dogs and for a child who's fucked his life up.

Absolutely, and fortunately most juvenile arsonists don't go on to become adult arsonists, they get the fuck scared out of them and put the lighter away for good.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

They've raised the target for fundraising to £1 million now which is sensible, and it currently stands at £603,000.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Arsonists (to my knowledge) have a lot of difficulty controlling their actions. Fraudsters less so. I used to work with a girl whose brother "set fires". She said they couldn't stop him, he couldn't stop himself. It's pretty serious shit.

The majority of repeat arsonists are all about control, from the type of fire they set, to when and where they do it - it's a classic playing out of control that they aren't able to exercise in other parts of their life. The compulsion element isn't insurmountable, but it does require the arsonist to want to stop, as with any addiction.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I hope he sets a fire in his cell and nobody listens to the smoke alarm. Ever

The thing with prison cells is that they're often equipped with fire-proofed mattresses and incombustible "furniture", so all he'd be able to burn would be the pin-ups from his copy of the Daily Star (v. popular in nicks because of the boobage), and his letters from home.

 

[kittyP]

So, according to Urban, this lad is a twat, an idiot, fully aware of his actions and the consequences for these poor dogs, ought to be locked up forever or burnt to death in his cell. He is fully responsible for his actions! But I bet Urban doesn't think he's capable of consenting to sex though.

Errr... no.

 

[ViolentPanda]

How big is that dogs home? People sure love dumping dogs.

To be fair, it's not just about people "dumping" dogs, it's also about people being "caught out" with bereavements or medical emergencies who suddenly find themselves unable to manage their beloved pets; people who are compelled to move, and who can't find new digs that allow pets; even couples who suddenly find themselves expecting a child, and are worried about managing a new child and a dog.

 

[el-ahrairah]

well, this is all very sad. my wet liberal empathy for my fellow man and my violent disgust at anyone who hurts animals are in competition. i wish it had been an adult what did it so i could get really righteously angry.

 

[binka]

The response of the community seems to have been fantastic too.

that's why manchester is the best city in the country. If this happened in London they'd have probably stood outside cheering as the place went up in flames

 

[farmerbarleymow]

that's why machester is the best city in the country. If this happened in London they'd have probably stood outside cheering as the place when up in flames

I wouldn't agree with that - there have been donations from people across the country (and overseas), and Battersea is well loved in London. But I suspect some people might comment on your post in due course!

 

[ViolentPanda]

So, according to Urban, this lad is a twat, an idiot, fully aware of his actions and the consequences for these poor dogs, ought to be locked up forever or burnt to death in his cell. He is fully responsible for his actions! But I bet Urban doesn't think he's capable of consenting to sex though.

Oh look, rioted being self-righteous yet again!!!

 

[ViolentPanda]

that's why machester is the best city in the country. If this happened in London they'd have probably stood outside cheering as the place when up in flames

Sort out your anti-Londonist shit, you slaaaaaaaggg!!!

 

[Louis MacNeice]

So, according to Urban, this lad is a twat, an idiot, fully aware of his actions and the consequences for these poor dogs, ought to be locked up forever or burnt to death in his cell. He is fully responsible for his actions! But I bet Urban doesn't think he's capable of consenting to sex though.

'According to Urban'...how would that work then? According to some on Urban the 14 year may or may not have done it in circumstances, both long term and immediate, that we know nothing about. The teenager's ability to 'consent to sex' is similarly unknown.

Louis MacNeice

 

[Louis MacNeice]

That's what I was trying to say - It probably wasn't appropriate on this thread though.

So why did you actually write:

Anyway, we overwhelmed & battered her. Not exactly proud, but it was funny & well, it is what it is.
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Oh how we laughed (and are still chuckling to ourselves)!

Louis MacNeice

 

[Dogsauce]

that's why Manchester is the best city in the country. If this happened in London they'd have probably stood outside cheering as the place when up in flames

Nah, that'd be Leeds. Animal cruelty capital of the country apparently. Not proud.

 

[Wilf]

Nah, that'd be Leeds. Animal cruelty capital of the country apparently. Not proud.

North east usually gets the regional award.

 

[Awesome Wells]

I wonder how many people would have given if it was unemployed people not dogs (the Philpott tragedy notwithstanding).

While it's nice that people do nice things, I hope they are doing them for the right reasons and not the group think that takes hold so easily these days.

 

[Wilf]

I wonder how many people would have given if it was unemployed people not dogs (the Philpott tragedy notwithstanding).

While it's nice that people do nice things, I hope they are doing them for the right reasons and not the group think that takes hold so easily these days.

I usually find people are really good if a family, say, loses everyting in a fire. Anyway, if people are giving money, sat on their own in the imediate hours after something like this, they are just doing it because they think it's a good idea. There hasn't even been time for a 'group think' to be established.

 

[tufty79]

What would be the wrong reasons for donating?

 

[Awesome Wells]

I usually find people are really good if a family, say, loses everyting in a fire. Anyway, if people are giving money, sat on their own in the imediate hours after something like this, they are just doing it because they think it's a good idea. There hasn't even been time for a 'group think' to be established.

I don't agree - though i'm not saying it's the case here - I think there is a groupthink at work in Britain already. It's the result of superficial emotive manipulation that comes from X Factor sob stories, the Armed Forces Wives Choir, the death of Diana, and a general feeling, in people, of being insecure and left, by the powers at be, in the grip of the cold winds of economic fortune.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

I usually find people are really good if a family, say, loses everyting in a fire. Anyway, if people are giving money, sat on their own in the imediate hours after something like this, they are just doing it because they think it's a good idea. There hasn't even been time for a 'group think' to be established.

I agree - people are usually generous when people suffer a tragedy, but these aren't usually widely-reported like this one. And you're right - huge amounts of money were donated through the night in the immediate aftermath of the fire, just through people hearing about it on social media and doing it because they consider it a good cause.

 

[Awesome Wells]

What would be the wrong reasons for donating?

Are you asking me if the end justfies the reason?

 

[farmerbarleymow]

I don't agree - though i'm not saying it's the case here - I think there is a groupthink at work in Britain already. It's the result of superficial emotive manipulation that comes from X Factor sob stories, the Armed Forces Wives Choir, the death of Diana, and a general feeling, in people, of being insecure and left, by the powers at be, in the grip of the cold winds of economic fortune.

You're overthinking things. People donate because they want to - either through compassion for others, or through personal views on a given issue, or whatever. It isn't superficial - to take this particular case - millions of people in the country have dogs, and have a good deal of respect for the work that dogs homes like this do, so are willing to support them in times of need where they are able to. It is called being a compassionate human being more than anything else.

It isn't about insecurity at all - that is a bizarre way of looking at it.

 

[Awesome Wells]

You're overthinking things. People donate because they want to - either through compassion for others, or through personal views on a given issue, or whatever. It isn't superficial - to take this particular case - millions of people in the country have dogs, and have a good deal of respect for the work that dogs homes like this do, so are willing to support them in times of need where they are able to. It is called being a compassionate human being more than anything else.

It isn't about insecurity at all - that is a bizarre way of looking at it.

I didn't say it was.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

What would be the wrong reasons for donating?

You're wasting your time with this one.