video debunking 9/11 conspiracies
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The sad thing about the bulk of the moronic 9/11 conspiracy theories is that after listening to that shite noone is in the mood to ask any questions about - for example - what exactly was in the chapter about the role of the Saudis that was censored from the Congressional investigations before it was published.
I believe that the planes were hijacked and flew into the buildings. The interesting questions for me (and the ones which most conspiracy theorists - and most normal people - ignore) are regarding who the terrorists were and who knew they were up to something. It is not necessary to try and claim the US government set up the whole thing or that some stupid missiles, holograms or bombs were involved. A 'conspiracy' could simply have been agencies or people allowing something to happen without stopping it (at the US end) or the involvement of the Saudi military (in international terms). Unfortunately it is the stupidest theories that get all the attention (with the exception of the Michael Moore film which did raise a lot of issues and questions in a far more intelligent way).
Sadly, in a u75 context (and please don't take this personally) its been largely you Dr Jazzz (plus others of course) that has turned a lot of people away from discussing cover-ups etc. If you could have reigned in the more crazy theories it might have been possible to discuss some of the more sensible and prozaic ones.
I believe that the planes were hijacked and flew into the buildings. The interesting questions for me (and the ones which most conspiracy theorists - and most normal people - ignore) are regarding who the terrorists were and who knew they were up to something. It is not necessary to try and claim the US government set up the whole thing or that some stupid missiles, holograms or bombs were involved. A 'conspiracy' could simply have been agencies or people allowing something to happen without stopping it (at the US end) or the involvement of the Saudi military (in international terms). Unfortunately it is the stupidest theories that get all the attention (with the exception of the Michael Moore film which did raise a lot of issues and questions in a far more intelligent way).
Sadly, in a u75 context (and please don't take this personally) its been largely you Dr Jazzz (plus others of course) that has turned a lot of people away from discussing cover-ups etc. If you could have reigned in the more crazy theories it might have been possible to discuss some of the more sensible and prozaic ones.
there's actually a really good film about the fake moon landings. i don't know how the filmmaker did it but he got rumsfeld and kissinger to give interviews for it, together with the former sectretary of president nixon and stanley kubricks wife. these guys lead you down a merry road saying how nixon demanded a contingency plan should the apollo mission fail, so he got stanley kubrick to direct the moon films and photos in a studio so they could say they got there even if they didn't.
of course at the end everyone who appears in the film all turns round and says "had you going you twat"
wish i could remember what it was called.
of course at the end everyone who appears in the film all turns round and says "had you going you twat"
wish i could remember what it was called.
yeah, well mebbe that's it; just seemed a bit like it was aimed at us seein i had posted about 15 minutes earlier after it having been dormant for a while, and it clearly wasn't aimed at pk, the only other who had posted in the 3 hours; and it pissed us off cos i was asking a serious question, which i thought ed might have been able to answer, and i find pictures on messageboards can really cut down a discussion.Loki said:
David Shayler lambasts the official story!
The official story of 9-11 is now crumbling.
I have to say, it will come as a small satisfaction to watch the likes of editor, pk, Loki (and many others too, apologies if I miss your name out) have to pretend that of course they didn't believe the official nonsense at all.
The meeting tonight was well attended (500+) and I got through two boxes of DVDs. A welcome British speaker was David Shayler, who said
"I have come to the conclusion that they made it happen"
The official story of 9-11 is now crumbling.
I have to say, it will come as a small satisfaction to watch the likes of editor, pk, Loki (and many others too, apologies if I miss your name out) have to pretend that of course they didn't believe the official nonsense at all.
The meeting tonight was well attended (500+) and I got through two boxes of DVDs. A welcome British speaker was David Shayler, who said
"I have come to the conclusion that they made it happen"
He was referring to the USG military/intelligence services TeeJay. He said a lot more besides. I think the last sentence was 'They either let it happen or made it happen, and I have come to the conclusion that they made it happen'. I couldn't be certain of the full quote though. 
My only recollection of Shayler talking is on Have I Got News for You, where he made such an arse of himself Merton switched off the TV link (he had to participate from Paris at the time).DrJazzz said:They were free editor
is David Shayler a conspiraloon, too?
I can't say I'm bothered with the opinions of Shayler.
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should be Oslovilla, really
Shayler a conspiraloon?
No, but the loons are about the only ones who trust a word that comes out of his mouth now. I trust him about as far I could spit him.
No, but the loons are about the only ones who trust a word that comes out of his mouth now. I trust him about as far I could spit him.
Oh what about John Pilger then?
Christ you guys are ridiculous! It should be so obvious now!
edited to add: JP is endorsing a new book by Nafeez Ahmed, 'The War on Truth: 9/11, Disinformation and the Anatomy of Terrorism' - and I was pleased to have a brief exchange with him personally at the last Respect Rally
Christ you guys are ridiculous! It should be so obvious now!
edited to add: JP is endorsing a new book by Nafeez Ahmed, 'The War on Truth: 9/11, Disinformation and the Anatomy of Terrorism' - and I was pleased to have a brief exchange with him personally at the last Respect Rally
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