'Vegan diets are healthier and safer for dogs' says The Guardian about University of Winchester survey

[editor]

It’s a bit off when people report health advice given to their loved ones to cast doubt on that advice. Or imply the poster is lying.
Anyway it’s possible to have a healthy vegan diet just takes more attention. It’s not for me but good luck to those who it works. A bit more complicated when it comes to pet animals.

You don't see the contradiction when agenda-laden posters tear apart a published survey because it fails to meet their high standards of evidence, but then they start peppering the thread with completely unverifiable tales of people they know whose fairly unique circumstances just happen to exactly mirror their own take on the discussion?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

If you think a veggie diet is inherently you really are a fucking idiot.

Not sure what “inherently” means in this context but if you mean bad then no, I don’t. But clearly it isn’t healthy for everyone.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

'agenda-laden'? ffs.

Which part of 'I wish I hadn't brought it up' did you not understand?

You're making a fucking prick of yourself now.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I can't believe that I brought up something that happened to a family member for which some posters are having an absolute meltdown over suggesting that a qualified doctor was wrong or that I'm simply lying.
What an odd place.

 

[editor]

'agenda-laden'? ffs.

Which part of 'I wish I hadn't brought it up' did you not understand?

You're making a fucking prick of yourself now.

Wash your mouth and calm yourself down.

 

[editor]

I can't believe that I brought up something that happened to a family member for which some posters are having an absolute meltdown over suggesting that a qualified doctor was wrong or that I'm simply lying.
What an odd place.

The only person I can see having a 'meltdown' here is Mr Pottymouth above!

 

[editor]

Not sure what “inherently” means in this context but if you mean bad then no, I don’t. But clearly it isn’t healthy for everyone.

Inherently unhealthy. A well balanced veggie diet is not unhealthy as you ignorantly claim.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Inherently unhealthy. A well balanced veggie diet is not unhealthy as you ignorantly claim.

Where did I claim that? I said my BIL got ordered to eat fish/chicken by the doctor for health reasons. Then got loads of invented bollocks in reply such as the doctor was 'a fraud' or simply that I'm 'lying' lol.
I now know not to trust the arguments of those people in any other thread.

 

[xenon]

You don't see the contradiction when agenda-laden posters tear apart a published survey because it fails to meet their high standards of evidence, but then they start peppering the thread with completely unverifiable tales of people they know whose fairly unique circumstances just happen to exactly mirror their own take on the discussion?

Well there's a bit of the usual nonsense. But the original survey lacked rigor so of course it was gonna get pulled apart.

TBF It doesn't seem unlikely that vegan dog food, fortified if necessary with vitamins could be a healthy diet for your average mutt but I'd defer to the experts and decent research.

Obviously as a meat eater, I'm also fine with dogs eating the bits of animals us lot tend not to as well, to save on food waist.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Where did I claim that? I said my BIL got ordered to eat fish/chicken by the doctor for health reasons.

Which was then, and is now, complete horseshit.

 

[xenon]

But yeah, if someone says a doctor advised a relative to do X, to counter with you've made that person up, the doctor is wrong etc, is fucking ridiculous. Surely that's obvious. Nothing else regarding health advice would get that response on here.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Which was then, and is now, complete horseshit.

Vegan horseshit?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Which was then, and is now, complete horseshit.

It's the truth you mad fucker. Why would I lie about the health of a family member?

 

[xenon]

Which was then, and is now, complete horseshit.

Seems a lot of doctors do

How come a lot of doctors advise patients to eat fish?

Answer (1 of 3): Fish contains less fat and is packed with nutrients. Even fatty fishes are healthy. Fish doesn't clog your arteries. A portion of fish has fewer calories. Obviously, if you are making healthier food choices you must also cook your food using healthier ingredients like olive oil, ...

www.quora.com

I guess they're all just shit at being doctors.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Vegan horseshit?

I sense that Magnus McGinty is not a vegan.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I sense that Magnus McGinty is not a vegan.

I was veggie for 7 years and would prefer to go back tbh but I don't think it provides all the needed protein vs fat costs.

 

[tonysingh]

Vegan horseshit?

Wouldn't human faeces be like semen and inherently vegan? Since its entirely man-made.

I may be thinking too much about this.

 

[SpookyFrank]

It's the truth you mad fucker. Why would I lie about the health of a family member?

Only the gods know that. Could be your family member is lying to you of course, or his doctor is lying to him.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Only the gods know that. Could be your family member is lying to you of course, or his doctor is lying to him.

Or you're the one lying, for silly reasons.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I was veggie for 7 years and would prefer to go back tbh but I don't think it provides all the needed protein vs fat costs.

OK, well that explains why I'm dead.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

OK, well that explains why I'm dead.

Do you eat all of the strawmen you create given they're non-meat?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Do you eat all of the strawmen you create given they're non-meat?

There's about half a billion of those particular straw men, I doubt I could munch through them all.

 

[cupid_stunt]

You don't see the contradiction when agenda-laden posters tear apart a published survey because it fails to meet their high standards of evidence,...

TBF, calling other posters 'agenda-laden' is a bit rich, as in 'pot & kettle'.

And, this so-called 'research' is dodgy, hence it got pulled apart, it's what urban does when someone posts a source which is somewhat dodgy, and you normally support that reaction, but clearly not on this subject.

 

[ddraig]

Not sure what “inherently” means in this context but if you mean bad then no, I don’t. But clearly it isn’t healthy for everyone.

And meat diets are healthy for everyone?

You claimed a vegi diet was "a shit one", own your crap ffs

 

[Magnus McGinty]

And meat diets are healthy for everyone?

You claimed a vegi diet was "a shit one", own your crap ffs

Everything in moderation is the health advice we've been given for years, and is correct IMO.

 

[ddraig]

Everything in moderation is the health advice we've been given for years, and is correct IMO.

why say a vegi diet is "a shit one" then?

 

[ddraig]

e2a I'm perfectly healthy without meat thanks, don't need it in any amount

 

[Magnus McGinty]

why say a vegi diet is "a shit one" then?

Where did I say that?
From memory, editor said my BIL must have had a shit diet to which I replied he had a veggie one. That isn't the same as me saying a veggie diet is shit. But so many lies come out of your mouth I'm not sure even you know what to believe anymore.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Everything in moderation is the health advice we've been given for years, and is correct IMO.

Has your family been getting all their medical advice from the comment threads on the local paper's website or is there some mumsnet stuff in there as well?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Has your family been getting all their medical advice from the comment threads on the local paper's website or is there some mumsnet stuff in there as well?

This is quite funny. It's peak you. You think everyone who listens to professional advice which falls foul of your ideology have been doing so from other ideological sources other than a bloody GP!