US election 2020 thread

[littlebabyjesus]

Huge difference between Cubans, Mexicans, Venezuelans etc etc. Non-English speakers, English speakers and primarily English speakers. It's quite a broad group and there's always been more of them supporting Republicans than is the case in, say, black voters

Yep. And they're not becoming more Republican as an aggregate group. Reagan and Bush Jnr both made relatively successful pitches for Latino support. Other Republicans less so. Has Trump even tried? He's reversed the Obama measures wrt Cuba, which will of course please a certain kind of Cuban-American, but that's all I can think of, and they vote Republican anyway.

 

[Thaw]

Sounds like the Latinos are in the process of becoming white to steal a phrase/concept from Noel Ignatiev.

I was reading this last night. Italians and Irish weren't considered 'white' once upon a time.

The Republican Identity Crisis After Trump

This Presidency poses stark questions about the ideological future of both parties.

www.newyorker.com

"What’s more, the practical definitions of who’s white and who’s a minority are fluid. During the past hundred years, many Americans who weren’t originally considered white, including the descendants of immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe, were assimilated into whiteness. In the future, others who aren’t now considered white may do so, too. Latinos have a high intermarriage rate—close to fifty per cent for the college educated—and twenty per cent of U.S.-born Latinos have a non-Hispanic white parent. Latinos are also increasingly likely to live in integrated neighborhoods. Reversalists dream of many Latino voters going Republican because they have become uncomfortable with the prevailing political stance (more liberal on social issues, less liberal on economic issues) among college-educated white Democratic voters. "

 

[JTG]

How the exit polls are gonna work given the enormous early vote: How the exit polls will work in a pandemic

 

[spring-peeper]

Trump is going to barricade himself in the white house

‘Non-scalable’ fence to go up around White House before election: report

A “non-scalable” fence will reportedly be installed around the White House one day before ballots are cast on Tuesday as concerns mount over potential unrest on Election Day.A…

thehill.com

A poll released last month from YouGov found that most voters expect to see a rise in violence following the election, including more than half of Democrats and Republicans.

A study released in mid-October also warned that five states -- Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Oregon -- were at risk to experience increased militia activity ahead of the election and afterward.

That report, which was released by the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project (ACLED) and MilitiaWatch, also determined that North Carolina, Texas, Virginia, California and New Mexico were at moderate risk to see increased active militias during the same time period.

 

[NoXion]

As if that's gonna stop the Secret Service.

 

[pesh]

flag says no.

 

[Streathamite]

He's reversed the Obama measures wrt Cuba, which will of course please a certain kind of Cuban-American, but that's all I can think of, and they vote Republican anyway.

Against that, there's the Wall, the border stuff, ICe and the countless insults Trump has directed against latinos

 

[Sprocket.]

flag says no.

I wouldn’t be surprised if that Skyjack was Canadian.

 

[petee]

there's lots of physical intimidation going on, i see seom posts on this above.

here's electoral intimidation:

Cumberland County officials received an email this week from the Trump campaign requesting highly specific details about the county’s ballot security.
The email, obtained by The Sentinel, went so far as to ask for the address and room numbers of ballot storage locations, and requested that the information be sent to the Gmail account of a Florida-based Trump operative.
County officials said they have not responded to the request and do not intend to, according to the county commissioners.

Security info request from Trump campaign perturbs Cumberland County officials ahead of election

“It’s almost kind of chilling the sort of data they wanted us to provide,” Cumberland County Commissioner Gary Eichelberger said. “This is basically the whole security plan."

cumberlink.com

 

[bimble]

Here's trump saying his lawyers will be 'going in' on the night of the election [to try to stop any further counting of votes]. Who are these lawyers are they real ?

 

[a_chap]

He sounds ever so slightly rattled

 

[Sprocket.]

I thought trump was against early voting too!
He’s got pigeons living in his head the soft twat.

 

[Kaka Tim]

He sounds ever so slightly rattled

yep - he sounds genuinely pissed off that he cant chuck out votes he doesn't like.

 

[belboid]

Apparently Trump supporters in NY yesterday were spending their time fruitfully - zoom bombing an academic discussion of The Red Shoes and its influence upon Hollywood today. I gather the Biden vote is now in complete collapse.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

He's going to be the worst loser in the world ever, if he actually loses.

 

[weltweit]

He's going to be the worst loser in the world ever, if he actually loses.

"IF"? I think it would be a miracle if he won, no?

 

[Johnny Vodka]

"IF"? I think it would be a miracle if he won, no?

Miracles are meant to be good things...

 

[belboid]

from beeb:


Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar told reporters that more than 2.4m postal ballots have been filled out and submitted.

Of the returned ballots, 1,596,195 are from registered Democrats while 555,805 are from registered Republicans.

Addressing reports that President Trump could claim victory before the election is called, Boockvar said:"We are hitting this on every front to make sure every Pennsylvanians can exercise their right to vote".

"There is literally no basis in law for anybody to certify the results until November 23."

 

[bimble]

It’s pretty amazing what he’s done with his weeks & months of yowling about how he won’t accept the results and all these attempts to bin the ballots he doesn’t like etc. Huge thing on the Twitter now just people demanding / campaigning for every legal vote to be counted. I mean, that is not normal.

 

[spring-peeper]

from beeb:


Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar told reporters that more than 2.4m postal ballots have been filled out and submitted.

Of the returned ballots, 1,596,195 are from registered Democrats while 555,805 are from registered Republicans.

Addressing reports that President Trump could claim victory before the election is called, Boockvar said:"We are hitting this on every front to make sure every Pennsylvanians can exercise their right to vote".

"There is literally no basis in law for anybody to certify the results until November 23."

Can't get the link to work

eta: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-us-2020-54768273

 

[Lord Camomile]

Here's trump saying his lawyers will be 'going in' on the night of the election [to try to stop any further counting of votes]. Who are these lawyers are they real ?

"If you haven't made up your mind by now you're an idiot" - way to court those undecideds, Donnie

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

"If you haven't made up your mind by now you're an idiot" - way to court those undecideds, Donnie

He got to pick 1/3 of the judges and he still can't get the Supreme court to rule in his favor.

 

[Dogsauce]

He's going to be the worst loser in the world ever, if he actually loses.

yeah, but won’t that be more satisfying than if he made a dignified and humble exit. Knowing how pissed off he is.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

He got to pick 1/3 of the judges and he still can't get the Supreme court to rule in his favor.

It would be great if he took his defeat to the SC and they told him to fuck off.

 

[petee]

the GOPpers were happy because they thought the judge they got would be one of them

Hanen was appointed by President George W. Bush, a Republican

but ...

Reuters | Breaking International News & Views

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on the other side ...

Groups including the American Civil Liberties Union are asking to intervene in the litigation, saying the plaintiffs want to undermine the election and suppress votes.

ACLU lawyer Andre Segura said during the hearing that Hanen should avoid issuing an order requiring people to vote a second time.

“Once the egg has been scrambled it doesn’t make sense to put it back in the egg,”

so the lesson is, don't put the egg back in the egg.

 

[JTG]

Federal judge rules against Texas GOP attempt to throw out drive-thru votes in Harris County

 

[petee]

Federal judge rules against Texas GOP attempt to throw out drive-thru votes in Harris County

so in the four minutes between the time i put up my post and you yours, it happened?

 

[JTG]

so in the four minutes between the time i put up my post and you yours, it happened?

Going by the time of the tweet I saw reporting it, four minutes before you posted yours

 

[petee]

i'm simply no good at this

 

[JTG]

i'm simply no good at this

lol, it's more a reflection on my need to be Very Online