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According to half the boards four years ago we were unlikely to see the end of 2016. I still think having America being run by a clown was good for world peace. I know bombing increased in conflicts that were already underway but Clinton would have done that and shot down Russian planes.
 
Fucking hope not! Quite amazed he hasn't already fired off some nukes in a vulgar display of petulance

I'm certain that the guy actually carrying the Nuclear Football has no more desire to see the world go up in a puff of radioactive smoke than any other ordinary person. Trump needs the cooperation of the military, he can't just launch nukes without it.
 
I wonder what the people giving the money imagine that it's going to be used for?
To fix the election that didn't go how they wanted, thats it. 'Join the Election Defense Task Force'.
Apparently the fundraising emails have been coming extra frequently since the election, hundreds this month so several a day (from the President himself, from eric, from Pence) and have been increasingly aggressive in tone, we can't do this without YOU etc.
 
According to half the boards four years ago we were unlikely to see the end of 2016. I still think having America being run by a clown was good for world peace. I know bombing increased in conflicts that were already underway but Clinton would have done that and shot down Russian planes.

I think in the long run it will be bad for world peace. Trump is destabilizing several parts of the world, including the US, and it will take a while for it all to fallout. Combine that destabilization with the effects of worsening climate change and the economic and social effects from Covid and its going to be an interesting next few years. For what its worth, I hope I'm wrong.
 
I think in the long run it will be bad for world peace. Trump is destabilizing several parts of the world, including the US, and it will take a while for it all to fallout. Combine that destabilization with the effects of worsening climate change and the economic and social effects from Covid and its going to be an interesting next few years. For what its worth, I hope I'm wrong.
Biden's probably done more to destabilise the world as senator than Trump managed as president. Trump has merely destabilised his own country. The Russia and China situations have felt like they've been on pause.
 
Biden's probably done more to destabilise the world as senator than Trump managed as president. Trump has merely destabilised his own country. The Russia and China situations have felt like they've been on pause.
How about the Iran situation, or the Palestine situation, or the Cuba situation. I also don't quite see how Trump's policies towards China have helped anything much wrt peace.

The last US president who made anything like serious attempts at world peace was Jimmy Carter. I don't hold out high hopes with Biden, but he might surprise us. Trump did fuck all for world peace.
 
How about the Iran situation, or the Palestine situation, or the Cuba situation. I also don't quite see how Trump's policies towards China have helped anything much wrt peace.

The last US president who made anything like serious attempts at world peace was Jimmy Carter. I don't hold out high hopes with Biden, but he might surprise us. Trump did fuck all for world peace.

And what reasons do you have for thinking he might perform a complete u-turn on his previous record as a senator?

You can have Cuba but I don't think China, Iran or Israel went radically different to the way they would have under Clinton. And Russia in particular (and China to some extent though the situation in the South China Sea has been ramping up across presidents for decades) has been content to sit back and laugh while the US eats itself.
 
I drove all the way across my state and back last weekend, and in the rural areas people had put up more Trump flags since the election than were there before the election. It looked like they'd all gotten them from the same vendor because it was an American flag on one side and a Trump flag on the other. Trump signs and flags have disappeared in the city, but they're still strong in the rural areas.


I was worried about this.

My brother (Long Island) was saying “they’re taking down the flags, don’t worry, it’s all over and they know it” and I was saying “... but what about the rest of the country, wide open spaces, the white south...?”

His wife wants them to move to the UK. I do too tbh. He says “it’s bad there too” but at least we don’t have the gun culture they do.
 
Biden's probably done more to destabilise the world as senator than Trump managed as president. Trump has merely destabilised his own country. The Russia and China situations have felt like they've been on pause.

Well, you know I'm not fan of Biden (or the Democratic Party for that matter). I think one way that Biden will be different than Trump is that Biden understands that you don't have peace when people are starving. Trump ended a lot of the food programs the US contributed to. With 265 million people on the brink of starvation right now, and another 250 million food insecure, and with food insecurity in the US doubling in the last year, you're going to have to feed people or there won't be peace. Trump essentially said "fuck em." I think he'll try to go back and restart the Iranian deal that Trump scuppered, and he'll rejoin some of the international climate agreements that Trump withdrew from. Even so, I think we're fucked and this is the quiet before we see how fucked we really are.
 
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Doug Ducey is the Republican Governor of Arizona who not too long ago was bragging about how tight he and Trumpy Trumpster were
 
I was worried about this.

My brother (Long Island) was saying “they’re taking down the flags, don’t worry, it’s all over and they know it” and I was saying “... but what about the rest of the country, wide open spaces, the white south...?”

His wife wants them to move to the UK. I do too tbh. He says “it’s bad there too” but at least we don’t have the gun culture they do.

I understand the urge. A few months ago, I mentioned that I was preparing to move and didn't know why. The other day, a neighbor stopped by and asked if I'd be willing to sell my house to their non-profit. They rehome homeless men and want to have a place to rehome women. Its not something that will happen immediately, but I told them I was interested. I think after I finish school I'll be moving.
 
Well, you know I'm not fan of Biden (or the Democratic Party for that matter). I think one way that Biden will be different than Trump is that Biden understands that you don't have peace when people are starving. Trump ended a lot of the food programs the US contributed to. With 265 million people on the brink of starvation right now, and another 250 million food insecure, and with food insecurity in the US doubling in the last year, you're going to have to feed people or there won't be peace. Trump essentially said "fuck em." I think he'll try to go back and restart the Iranian deal that Trump scuppered, and he'll rejoin some of the international climate agreements that Trump withdrew from. Even so, I think we're fucked and this is the quiet before we see how fucked we really are.


Food.

Obviously making it possible for people to eat well , or just avoid starvation, is simply the right thing to do.

But it’s also expedient and sensible. Hungry people have far less to lose by marching on the citadel, storming the barricades etc.

This is where Trump exposes his stupidity. He may have some kind of low cunning, a kind of instinctive zombie intelligence about how to achieve the high castle but he doesnt understand how to wield power.
 
I drove all the way across my state and back last weekend, and in the rural areas people had put up more Trump flags since the election than were there before the election. It looked like they'd all gotten them from the same vendor because it was an American flag on one side and a Trump flag on the other. Trump signs and flags have disappeared in the city, but they're still strong in the rural areas.
That’s so interesting. What do you thinks going on with that what explains it (people in rural areas putting out more trump flags since the election)?
 
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