US election 2020 thread

[Yossarian]

This exit poll on Coronavirus (nicked from the BBC) is interesting IMO. Given that US policy has been nothing short of disastrous, only 50% of those polled were willing to say it is going badly.

Poll might be a little skewed from being taken on Election Day - more than half the voters went for early voting or mail-in ballots this year, the people who didn't want to go near a potentially crowded polling place on the day probably had more concerns about how the virus was being handled. Although it looks like a lot of them voted for Trump anyway.

 

[YouSir]

Yeah.

AN is completely out of his depth here.

Useless fuck's out of his depth arguing with random strangers on Twitter, never mind real work.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Once the shock fades this is going to be quite funny

 

[redsquirrel]

Nope, can't find much. As you say, most sites just combine all the districts. GOP won the House seat for Nebraska so ticket splitting there

Thanks anyway

 

[bimble]

Once the shock fades this is going to be quite funny

go on how is it going to be funny, who for.

 

[NoXion]

What a fucking mess. Typical 2020.

 

[Spymaster]

I'd like to say if it was a fair game Trump would have no chance. But McConnel would be installed as umpire, and Trump would hide sandpaper under his syrup...

Aye. Trump will pull a W.G. Grace whatever happens and declare himself not out.

 

[magneze]

go on how is it going to be funny, who for.

Dolphins

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Wisconsin says there's no way they are announcing a winner today. Michigan needs until Friday. Pennsylvania another day.

Beyond the noise this has got days not hours to run.

 

[Epona]

I know it isn't going to change anything but I submitted a complaint about them interviewing Farage (a right winger who is completely irrelevant to the US election process).

 

[JTG]

If I may offer an actual political opinion for nearly the first time on this thread(!), I do wonder how many times zombie centrism has to be humiliated both here and in the US before enough people cotton on that it isn't the fucking answer

 

[agricola]

I know it isn't going to change anything but I submitted a complaint about them interviewing Farage (a right winger who is completely irrelevant to the US election process).

The problem is though that they've had Liam Fox, Rabb and Miliband (D) on as well - none of whom know anything about anything.

 

[JTG]

Wisconsin says there's no way they are announcing a winner today.

Milwaukee, Kenosha and Green Bay amongst the cities still with outstanding mail ballots to count

 

[Epona]

The problem is though that they've had Liam Fox, Rabb and Miliband (D) on as well - none of whom know anything about anything.

Yeah there are degrees of being right wing though, and Farage is over the line of acceptable IMO

(I mean none of them are "acceptable" but the point when I am saying "no platform" is Farage level and higher)

 

[ska invita]

The BBC coverage is shockingly bad. I mean not massively surprised, but fucking hell.

Yeah.
AN is completely out of his depth here.

if you can be arsed can you elaborate for us not watching?

 

[JTG]

The problem is though that they've had Liam Fox, Rabb and Miliband (D) on as well - none of whom know anything about anything.

Did Miliband blame Jeremy Corbyn? He usually does

 

[Spymaster]

I know it isn't going to change anything but I submitted a complaint about them interviewing Farage (a right winger who is completely irrelevant to the US election process).

He's in Washington and was interviewed as a Trump ally!

 

[ska invita]

If I may offer an actual political opinion for nearly the first time on this thread(!), I do wonder how many times zombie centrism has to be humiliated both here and in the US before enough people cotton on that it isn't the fucking answer

the clue is in the word zombie - it cannot be killed before it rises and walks again

the people who need to cotton on are themselves zombie centrists - head shots the only solution

 

[two sheds]

What's the national anthem again?

God Help America.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

If I may offer an actual political opinion for nearly the first time on this thread(!), I do wonder how many times zombie centrism has to be humiliated both here and in the US before enough people cotton on that it isn't the fucking answer

At least once more. The blame game will be "Biden ran on a platform which was too easy to paint as radical socialist"

 

[redsquirrel]

If I may offer an actual political opinion for nearly the first time on this thread(!), I do wonder how many times zombie centrism has to be humiliated both here and in the US before enough people cotton on that it isn't the fucking answer

Beginning of the month liberalism was back with a vengeance.
(I don't mean you, rather the general liberal sploosh over Arden)

 

[tim]

CNN seem to have fairly good coverage. Turned on BBC and Farage is on.

The BBC needs to defund Farage

 

[JTG]

At least once more. The blame game will be "Biden ran on a platform which was too easy to paint as radical socialist"

Starmer could be up to fail before then

 

[Ted Striker]

Barely makes the top 100 of wtf's and disappointments of the last 10 or so hours...But I'm fairly astounded at how shit the coverage has been on the channels I've been watching. MSNBC and CNN seemingly haven't even employed an intern to do some basic prediction analytics.

Like the panhandle of Florida - a red stronghold even I know from the Senate mid-terms. But they acted as if they had no idea of any historic or demographic clues to suggest a trend or likely scenario.

And not bake these into any predictions. Even the BBC do it! You have a forecast and update it as more confirmations come in. Nothing. "Biden has x%, Trump has y%, n% counted... We have NO idea how this will play out..."

AND ANOTHER THING...Why oh why oh why etc...But the coverage is seriously partisan, to be laughable. We take the piss out of Fox,, but this is no better. They've always rightly mocked him for all his gaffes and serious fuck ups in the day-to-day, but they been ridiculously generous to Biden's chances tonight.

 

[Artaxerxes]

go on how is it going to be funny, who for.

Molepeople

 

[JTG]

Barely makes the top 100 of wtf's and disappointments of the last 10 or so hours...But I'm fairly astounded at how shit the coverage has been on the channels I've been watching. MSNBC and CNN seemingly haven't even employed an intern to do some basic prediction analytics.

Like the panhandle of Florida - a red stronghold even I know from the Senate mid-terms. But they acted as if they had no idea of any historic or demographic clues to suggest a trend or likely scenario.

And not bake these into any predictions. Even the BBC do it! You have a forecast and update it as more confirmations come in. Nothing. "Biden has x%, Trump has y%, n% counted... We have NO idea how this will play out..."

AND ANOTHER THING...Why oh why oh why etc...But the coverage is seriously partisan, to be laughable. We take the piss out of Fox,, but this is no better. They've always rightly mocked him for all his gaffes and serious fuck ups in the day-to-day, but they been ridiculously generous to Biden's chances tonight.

CNN kept focusing on urban counties showing serious movement to Biden from four years ago. Watching with the sound off it looked a lot like what a lot of district polling was predicting was actually happening.
What they weren't showing that I could see was a focus on more rural districts that were clearly moving the other way at a similar rate - or at least maintaining their % but bumping up the turnout numbers

 

[Pickman's model]

Once the shock fades this is going to be quite funny

Yeh we'll all be chuckling in the ruins, chortling at the green light this gives racists, guffawing at the climate warming and sniggering as trump's supporters gun down now unprotected wildlife

 

[krtek a houby]

So he's declared victory and declared fraud.

 

[quiet guy]

Happened to turn on to BBC for headlines and they had the shitgibbon Farage on, turned off straight away.

 

[JTG]

Anyway, several lawsuits already filed in PA yesterday and a couple due to be heard today. And round and round we go