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Ted Striker said:
To be fair, that kind of analysis is way beyond the broadcasters, who are still rabbit-in-the-headlights with only the most basic of information and insight trying to take it all in.

(Unlike me, clearly keeping my composure nicely, even despite the student level of empty cans around me)
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So, Arizona isn't clear - a quarter of the vote left and Biden's ahead but nobody seems sure what to expect from those

Georgia, Trump is up seven points but almost everything left is the Atlanta metro where Biden needs a wide margin but that's very possible
 
JTG said:
Georgia, Trump is up seven points but almost everything left is the Atlanta metro where Biden needs a wide margin but that's very possible
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They’re just being teases, the fuckers. They’ve counted it all but they’re not telling yet
 
JTG said:
Erm, Biden's ahead on the popular vote
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Comments on winning the popular vote one of the most embarrassing (and rage inducing!) phrases uttered (iro US Elections) :oops:. Eeeeeven worse than "we won the argument" :facepalm:

(Apologies for the hostile tone! )
 
It's very possible that Biden could win the popular vote by a wider margin than Clinton but lose the electoral college
 
dialectician said:
Sure, but if Biden was going to lose anything it would be the popular, not the electoral.
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What! You're talking crazy here dia. Biden is going to win the popular vote and every piece of evidence so far indicates he will win it by more than Clinton (polling, shift in completed counties, etc)
 
bimble said:
biden claims he's feeling good, says 'keep the faith guys we're gonna win this', looks frail.
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I didn't think so. I don't think late on election night is a good time to see anyone's best side. I'm still quite charitable to him because he comes across as a decent person.

I was so disappointed when he won the primary, but until Miami Dade tonight, I was really thankful he was up against Trump. The other options would have been much easier targets for the Trump onslaught.
 
redsquirrel said:
What! You're talking crazy here dia. Biden is going to win the popular vote and every piece of evidence so far indicates he will win it by more than Clinton (polling, shift in completed counties, etc)
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And what's the evidence that he'll lose the electoral?

I'm not saying he can't win both popular and electoral. I'm saying that if he was going to lose anything, in a hypothetical scenario, it would be the popular, which at the moment he is not.
 
redsquirrel said:
What! You're talking crazy here dia. Biden is going to win the popular vote and every piece of evidence so far indicates he will win it by more than Clinton (polling, shift in completed counties, etc)
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Indeed
 
dialectician said:
And what's the evidence that he'll lose the electoral?
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Well I don't think he will lose the electoral vote - but FL, NC and GA, which were all toss-ups, are leaning Republican (though see JTG s posts on GA).
But it has long, long been outlined that the GOP have an EC advantage.
 
redsquirrel said:
Well I don't think he will lose the electoral vote - but FL, NC and GA, which were all toss-ups, are leaning Republican (though see JTG s posts on GA).
But it has long, long been outlined that the GOP have an EC advantage.
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Right. That was my point. within a hypothetical scenario he was never going to lose the electoral. I'm sorry if I didn't word that clearly in my first post, been up for 24 hours :p
 
trump will say exactly what everyone knows he is going to say, he's been completely clear about what he was going to do for ages.
 
dialectician said:
And what's the evidence that he'll lose the electoral?

I'm not saying he can't win both popular and electoral. I'm saying that if he was going to lose anything, in a hypothetical scenario, it would be the popular, which at the moment he is not.
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I think you're getting mixed up about this.

Democrats have won the popular vote in six out of the last seven elections, and Biden is well on track to do the same this time around. He may well win the electoral college too, but the popular vote is by far the more certain of the two.
 
As it goes, I was wondering wtf Biden was aiming to do on his speech, but it was a fairly smart move to get out and speak, before Trump so not seen as hiding or in a bunker anxious, and avoided getting dragged into Trumps home ground of a tit-for-tat as it would have required a response (and got away with a nothing-burger message).

I'm going to need a bit more evidence before I declare him a political genius just yet though :hmm:
 
strung out said:
I think you're getting mixed up about this.

Democrats have won the popular vote in six out of the last seven elections, and Biden is well on track to do the same this time around. He may well win the electoral college too, but the popular vote is by far the more certain of the two.
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Yes, but those elections did not have a conservative coalition backing dem nominees (I could be wrong on this with exceptions.) Trump's support base is from without. The republicans are anathema to Trump. There is no US president who has been despised by his own party more than DJT.
 
biden will probably be appearing on tv to say the same thing several times for a while, its not over, every vote must be counted etc.
 
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