Urban v's the Commentariat

[The39thStep]

He was speaking at an event organised by the Socialist Party in Dublin! He was pretty good too from what I remember. To be fair, he doesn't automatically advocate that people in other countries should join their local labour/soc dem party.

Either pissed, not fully concentrating or beginnings of dementia?

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Either pissed, not fully concentrating or beginnings of dementia?

Any of the above are possible in my case. As for him, well he didn't seem pissed, but I can't entirely rule out the other two.

 

[Rural]

QUOTE="copliker, post: 13465135, member: 33737"]Has Paul Mason "lost it"?


If they'd had Max Keiser shouting at them about bitcoins they would've done a bit better?[/QUOTE]
Im sure the support of occupy would have led to victory for the miners. LP could have taught them intersectionality & crabby could have drawn some lovely pics of Scargill & indigenous miners. Ah the missed opportunities...

 

[PoorButNotAChav]

Im sure the support of occupy would have led to victory for the miners. LP could have taught them intersectionality & crabby could have drawn some lovely pics of Scargill & indigenous miners. Ah the missed opportunities...

Absolutely. Given how the Occupy movement took power throughout the Western world, reduced the influence of large multinational corporations and reformed the global financial system and made the world a fairer, more democratic and more stable place I'm sure they could have stopped the programme of pit closures in Britain in the 1980's.

 

[The39thStep]

QUOTE="copliker, post: 13465135, member: 33737"]Has Paul Mason "lost it"?


If they'd had Max Keiser shouting at them about bitcoins they would've done a bit better?

Im sure the support of occupy would have led to victory for the miners. LP could have taught them intersectionality & crabby could have drawn some lovely pics of Scargill & indigenous miners. Ah the missed opportunities...[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of Annakees position years ago that a local strike would have been won if it was on twitter and they performed a musical or something bonkers

 

[phildwyer]

samosa, in 1984.

 

[The39thStep]

I always had you down as a bit younger

 

[hot air baboon]

...should've been in that Two Ronnies skecth...

"...have you got some 'ose..."

"...samosas..?"

 

[Rural]

Im sure the support of occupy would have led to victory for the miners. LP could have taught them intersectionality & crabby could have drawn some lovely pics of Scargill & indigenous miners. Ah the missed opportunities...

Reminds me of Annakees position years ago that a local strike would have been won if it was on twitter and they performed a musical or something bonkers[/QUOTE]

I'm now imagining an anon version of Les Mis starring Laurie& Owen.

 

[hot air baboon]

.....this is just eye-gougingly cringe-making....and you have to pay Murdoch to read it on-line...

 

[Rural]

Wish ppl would stop referring to USA as "a newish country". There were ppl there b4 Columbus. Tho there's plenty more awful things about that article.

 

[captainmission]

This was posted before - https://olaasm.wordpress.com/2014/1...te-weevgate-abusers-their-knowing-apologists/

detailing how Kathy Sierra emailed Molly Crabapple informing her Weev a serial harasser while she was busy lionising him in her articles.

Turns out laurie penny didn't like this, so retweeted a troll account to her 100,000 followersthat doxxed the author of that piece. When he complained she accused him of harassing him and said she felt threatened.

 

[newbie]

I hadn't realised that LP is a notable name in the US but she gets a couple of namechecks in this rather fine, if long, blogpost which I don't think has been mentioned on here

http://ohtarzie.wordpress.com/2014/09/07/the-celebrity-left-wars/#comment-13497

Zionist, white supremacist publicist, and risible snob Laurie Penny, when confronted with the possibility that something other than her gender inspires criticism, offers another crash course in how to argue like a Celebrity Left. The entire conversation is a grim study in how infantile narcissism and the hasbara-like maneuvering of this riff-raff complement each other.

 

[killer b]

If you look at funding sources and the demographic makeup of participants, the presumed border between mainstream and alternative media is largely imagined. That means that the system of reward and punishment for coloring inside and outside lines is in play everywhere, though the lines themselves may differ. This thesis gets more credible as left politics gain purchase in commercial ventures like Comcast, Vice, and Huffington Post and elicit the patronage of tech billionaire Pierre Omidyar and media mogul Rupert Murdoch.

This bit.

 

[J Ed]

Calling LP a white supremacist or a Zionist is ridiculous, what is this accusation of 'Zionism' based on other than her fleetingly mentioned and supposed Jewish ancestry?

BTW wtf is this supposed 'culture war' that LP keeps bringing up? Is she consciously trying to imitate the vacuousness of Fox News or something?

 

[killer b]

Its based on a tweet, linked to in the article.

 

[butchersapron]

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[The Pale King]

 

[killer b]

(fwiw that postscript was the least interesting part of the piece, and it is a bit silly calling her a Zionist over the tweet mentioned - though the tweet itself is definitely worth highlighting)

 

[newbie]

(fwiw that postscript was the least interesting part of the piece

aye fair enough, but it was the fact that she counts as a celebrity leftist over there that I was trying to highlight. There are posts about Greenwald, Snowden and Chomsky so she's in good company.

 

[butchersapron]

It's actually from an article - the tweet of a line form it and the polite question were met by you're threatening me nonsense and bluster and i didn't een say those lines anyway so i guess that's why that part was highlighted again. From the article:

Because in the end, it is about blood. Not blood as metonym or metaphor, but the actual stuff, wet on the faces of screaming children in Gaza. It’s about blood, and how much more of it will have to be shed before Israel finally feels “safe”, and how long the international community will stand by. The moral basis for Israel’s persecution of the Palestinian people is eroding fast. It is not anti-Semitic to say “not in my name”.

The clumsy writing revealing a logic that there had been previously been a moral basis for Israel’s persecution of the Palestinian people. Terrible unclear thought process and clumsy writing - and in attempting to deny it happened she only succeeded in making it stick in peoples memories.

 

[J Ed]

I think all of that is indicative of laziness and ignorance rather than Zionism to be honest.

 

[killer b]

I think all of that is indicative of laziness and ignorance rather than Zionism to be honest.

I suppose you could argue that it's indicative of some kind of unconscious, internalised zionism at work. But I agree, and I think it muddies the water to claim it too. Seems a bit out of place with the rest of the article too - is the writer taking the piss perhaps?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

 

[rekil]

Brand hawking his stocking filler in NY

*waggly hands*

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ell-brand-occupy-wall-street-protesters-video

 

[el-ahrairah]

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what is that i don't even

 

[killer b]

what is that i don't even

Yer man Johann hari dipping his toe back in?

 

[Bakunin]

*waggly hands*

RESPECT the waggly hands!

 

[DaveCinzano]

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Like a watered-down Stewart Home. Stewart Homeopathy, if you will.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

what is that i don't even

Book launch!

Meta-commentariat pulp fiction.