Urban v's the Commentariat

[Spanky Longhorn]

Why not just print the photos she's copied?

Why not just photo that bowl of fruit?

(Not that I'm defending the disgusting Crabapple cunt)

 

[redsquirrel]

Fuck, she is far worse than Penny. Lots of people want a solution in Syria. A solution that does not include dropping iron fragmentation bombs across Syria. How many sketches would she be drawing of the dead that were murdered by Western forces? Probably none.

Well Penny cheered on the bombing of Libya, but yeah Crabapple is worse, supporting scum in Venezuela and the Ukraine.

 

[DotCommunist]

Yes! Even when writing fiction LP can't help but make herself the central character:

"Six months ago, Ruby Peeton was an A-star student. Captain of the netball team. On her way to Cambridge. That was before she got involved in the dangerous underground world of Seer swapping."

proper mary sue

 

[rekil]

Why not just photo that bowl of fruit?

(Not that I'm defending the disgusting Crabapple cunt)

We are all that bowl of fruit.

 

[seventh bullet]

We are all that bowl of fruit.

I'm nicking that.

 

[rekil]

I'm nicking that.

Just the right mix of pathos and vapidity I think.

 

[rekil]

Yes! Even when writing fiction LP can't help but make herself the central character:

"Six months ago, Ruby Peeton was an A-star student. Captain of the netball team. On her way to Cambridge. That was before she got involved in the dangerous underground world of Seer swapping."

Writing fiction is hard and I've got no qualms about admitting that I've written my fair share of utter rubbish but LP boasts continually about being a SF geek, so why oh why is this so fucking irredeemably shit?

 

[Bakunin]

Fair's fair. It's better than her poetry.

In the same way that the electric chair is better than being broken on the wheel, granted.

 

[Pickman's model]

Fair's fair. It's better than her poetry.

In the same way that the electric chair is better than being broken on the wheel, granted.

being in the chair can be far worse than the wheel as yer man can kill you instantly on the wheel but the chair takes longer

 

[DotCommunist]

Writing fiction is hard and I've got no qualms about admitting that I've written my fair share of utter rubbish but LP boasts continually about being a SF geek, so why oh why is this so fucking irredeemably shit?

the influence of Gaiman and Pratchett. They are guilty of twee in the first degree but despite that are good writers if you like that sort of thing, which I do. But its very, very easy to do badly.

 

[frogwoman]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/jessie-thompson/left-wing-people_b_4941582.html

The article makes some valid points but manages to be annoying itself.

 

[rekil]

the influence of Gaiman and Pratchett. They are guilty of twee in the first degree but despite that are good writers if you like that sort of thing, which I do. But its very, very easy to do badly.

Gaiman has never interested me but Pratchett is good at what he does. Cory Doctorow has been mentioned. He has a book called For The Win ffs. Is LP's story a condensed rip off of Little Brother?

 

[DotCommunist]

never had much time for Doctorow but the odd short story has passed my eyes- for someone who just gets away with that cringey zietgiesty riffing, Charles Stross. And even then its cos he packs it with weird, inventive and knowledgable stuff that backs the odd bum note

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Writing fiction is hard and I've got no qualms about admitting that I've written my fair share of utter rubbish but LP boasts continually about being a SF geek, so why oh why is this so fucking irredeemably shit?

It's not that bad for something obviously dashed off with little thought, although the bit they chose to highlight is lolsome (laughed with her mouth wide open what the fuck?)

I would nominate Cory Doctorow as the best near future speculator person.

Stross and MacLeod are both better writers, but less plausible imo

 

[DotCommunist]

worth mentioning Greg Egan for convincing sci fi- another one who I only enjoy in short fiction. Axiomatic is his best short collection.


MacLeod as mentioned is a bit implausible but really really fun.

 

[rekil]

It's not that bad for something obviously dashed off with little thought, although the bit they chose to highlight is lolsome (laughed with her mouth wide open what the fuck?)

If she'd read some Myles na gCopaleen she might avoid deploying cliches like "prying eyes", And that "warehouse off the Harrow Road" bit makes no sense. It's a big road so she'd need to be a bit more specific since she goes on to mention that Tottenham is under military occupation. Bah.

 

[Idris2002]

Fair's fair. It's better than her poetry.

In the same way that the electric chair is better than being broken on the wheel, granted.

Vogon poetry is better than her poetry.

 

[Idris2002]

It's not that bad for something obviously dashed off with little thought, although the bit they chose to highlight is lolsome (laughed with her mouth wide open what the fuck?)

I would nominate Cory Doctorow as the best near future speculator person.

Stross and MacLeod are both better writers, but less plausible imo

The one time I met Macleod I asked him if The Star Fraction was partly an allegory for the 'strange death of labour England' and he said yes.

 

[DotCommunist]

Vogon poetry is better than her poetry.

have you ever had the pleasure of Lousie the abandoner of Corby Mensch's poetry?

 

[eatmorecheese]

have you ever had the pleasure of Lousie the abandoner of Corby Mensch's poetry?

Christ, you made me look some of it up. Like smelling adolescent farts.

 

[Bakunin]

Vogon poetry is better than her poetry.

"Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me
As plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts
With my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!"

It's still immeasurably better than Saudade.

 

[Balbi]

Check out my pal taking LP to task for her choice of 'anger' to describe the 'I too am Oxford'

Follows on from this.

 

[equationgirl]

To be fair, having looked at recent posts on her Twitter feed I got the impression that she was all for the 'I am too Oxford' campaign and thought that the 'we are too oxford' campaign, which seems to have disappeared, was all about white privileged students.

 

[el-ahrairah]

it is my considered position that anyone in the media world who calls themselves Ned needs to be strangled in the town square.

 

[el-ahrairah]

the influence of Gaiman and Pratchett. They are guilty of twee in the first degree but despite that are good writers if you like that sort of thing, which I do. But its very, very easy to do badly.

i agree with this. i made that mistake in my early 20s. very hard to get right without sounding like a complete cunt. and there are plenty on here i think who won't even agree the gaiman and pratchett get it right!

 

[butchersapron]

What is this i am too oxford branding shit? What sort of knob thinks equality means scum like you rising to the top? Working class kids, get the fuck out of these places.

 

[el-ahrairah]

To be fair, having looked at recent posts on her Twitter feed I got the impression that she was all for the 'I am too Oxford' campaign and thought that the 'we are too oxford' campaign, which seems to have disappeared, was all about white privileged students.

her trouble is that she can't be both but wants to be. she wants to be the radical outsider, but also wants to have been an oxford student. she loves that she went to oxford, but she doesn't want to love it. she wants to throw off her background, but also revel in it. i feel sorry for her sometimes, because i know a few activists from her background and they handle it well by not pretending to be anythign they're not. it's so easy to do, but not when you're twisted up with weird values and contortions about your personal brand.

then i read some of her nonsense and remember that she's a lying fantasist trading off pretending to be a radical, and i think fuck 'er.

 

[equationgirl]

What is this i am too oxford branding shit? What sort of knob thinks equality means scum like you rising to the top? Working class kids, get the fuck out of these places.

I only saw the tumblr which was (at least to me) a photo essay with a number of people of colour writing their experiences on a white board. Racist experiences at worse and ignorant experiences at best. I read it as they were challenging those white privileged students who didn't think they should be at Oxford because of their skin tone.

 

[butchersapron]

No one should be at oxford. Fuck every last one of them - white black or fucking agglomerations of volcanic dust that have developed turing brains, then used as slow memory work drones for a billion years, until one hero remembers, through love...etc

 

[equationgirl]

her trouble is that she can't be both but wants to be. she wants to be the radical outsider, but also wants to have been an oxford student. she loves that she went to oxford, but she doesn't want to love it. she wants to throw off her background, but also revel in it. i feel sorry for her sometimes, because i know a few activists from her background and they handle it well by not pretending to be anythign they're not. it's so easy to do, but not when you're twisted up with weird values and contortions about your personal brand.

then i read some of her nonsense and remember that she's a lying fantasist trading off pretending to be a radical, and i think fuck 'er.

Is she really that radical though? I think she likes to view herself as radical, and for her circle she probably is, but in reality? Not so much. I feel sorry for her too, sometimes I think she does the right think but then I read about her trying to build her personal brand and it undoes any good that she's done.