Urban v's the Commentariat

[DaveCinzano]

I feel dirty pointing it out... But essentially what we have just done is create a tumblr. WITHOUT PICTURES.

 

[rekil]

There has a to be a Flavia Flav one. Brocialists Are A Joke etc

 

[DaveCinzano]

There has a to be a Flavia Flav one. Brocialists Are A Joke etc

WE GOT TO FIGHT THE POWERS THAT BE (EXCEPT IN THE U.A.E.)

 

[butchersapron]

There has a to be a Flavia Flav one. Brocialists Are A Joke etc

Yes, we have the ideal one for if she were a 911 loon, but sadly appears not. This is the closest i could find: "At the beginning, in the late nineties and early 2000s, especially after the World Trade Center debacle..."

 

[rekil]

Cis White Fems Are A Joke As Well

 

[DaveCinzano]

Intersectionalism is funny how, I mean, funny like I'm an intersectional clown? Intersectionalism amuses you? It makes you laugh, it's here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How is intersectionalism funny?

 

[Wilf]

You never know, she might google her name and end up here. She could tell us how oppressed her hair is, or something.

If this thread has achieved anything, at least it has made us reflect on our own hair texture. Workers of all salons unite, you have nothing to lose but your Alberto VO5!

 

[Pickman's model]

If this thread has achieved anything, at least it has made us reflect on our own hair texture. Workers of all salons unite, you have nothing to lose but your Alberto VO5!

yes. but this in itself highlights the hair tyranny those with shining pates have to live under. why can't she be grateful she has hair and just shut the fuck up about it? how does she imagine this constant harping on about the quality of her hair makes the likes of samuel l jackson feel?

 

[ViolentPanda]

I don't suppose we'll agree on this but for me class-based politics always had a certain totalitarian potential - there is one right class, one right struggle, one right revolution, one way of seeing capitalism, one class enemy etc. I do see the authoritarian communist regimes as to some degree produced by Marxian thought. A grand unified 'correct' way of seeing the world requires a unified interpreter and enforcer - which turned out to be the party, which turns out to require violence to ensure everyone is engaging in the struggle in the 'correct' manner.

You're conflating the actions of the upper heirarchy of political movements with the needs, desires and actions of the class.
They're not the same thing.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I didn't say that is what class-based politics is. I said it always had a certain potential within it, which did find expression. Likewise bell hooks writing has the potential within it to be read as a splintering identity politics. People's un-nuanced readings of texts shouldn't mean the texts should be dismissed but those readings may help us identify problems with the text. This twittersectionalist bullshit is descended from bell hooks thought. And authoritarian communism was descended from Marxist thought. I think that in both cases it is possible to identify the flaws within each that left them open to those misreadings.

All representational political forms inhere a potential for authoritarianism - it's the risk we all take if we assign our own power to someone else to manage on our behalf. It isn't merely a failing of communisms or socialisms.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Well, hey, what's the point trying to understand things when you can shout them down, call them out, smear them, and so on? It's everyone else who has to "sit the fuck down, shut up and listen".

Just about sums it up, once saw somebody claim they'd read "a few pages" of Judith Butler's 'Gender Trouble' and could tell it was "transphobic trash".

It does sometimes seem that the main qualification the twitter intersectionistas and their bloggie sistren have, besides the arrogance to presume to speak for others without let, is a fondness for ill-informed judgementalism.

 

[ViolentPanda]

She's the Mr Benn of intersectionality, magically becoming a conservative muslim man when a wedge of greenbacks hits the table.

She probably even lives on the intersection of Festive Rd and the high street!

 

[ViolentPanda]

http://www.redlightpolitics.info/post/69964018924/the-language-of-solidarity

That's an extremely poor attempt at textual analysis (okay, only of a two-word phrase!) by Dzodan. She has, for example, elided one entire set of contextually-valid meanings of the word "show" (those to do with revealing) from her little rant about how "show" is performative.
Sorry, sister Dzodan, but it's also revelatory.

 

[frogwoman]

That's an extremely poor attempt at textual analysis (okay, only of a two-word phrase!) by Dzodan. She has, for example, elided one entire set of contextually-valid meanings of the word "show" (those to do with revealing) from her little rant about how "show" is performative.
Sorry, sister Dzodan, but it's also revelatory.

Also, since when has that happened in normal speech, it's normal for people to say "ooh I think I'll go along to visit so and so in hospital, and show a bit of solidarity" (or it is in my family anyway) not "i think i'll stand in solidarity"

showing solidarity has a wide variety of meanings if you see what i mean

 

[butchersapron]

That's an extremely poor attempt at textual analysis (okay, only of a two-word phrase!) by Dzodan. She has, for example, elided one entire set of contextually-valid meanings of the word "show" (those to do with revealing) from her little rant about how "show" is performative.
Sorry, sister Dzodan, but it's also revelatory.

I read in another piece of hers where she has the curly haired cheek to damn 'call out culture' - from this she doesn't seem to know what 'performative means. It doesn't mean performing. It doesn't mean putting on a performance and " and go on with our lives.". It means the exact opposite in fact.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Seriously:



this...fucking...drivel is dignity? I've met people who went out on strike for 18 months and fought every single day of those 18 months and lost every single thing they held dear as a price and still would not give up. That's dignity you curly haired twat.

You need to view her scribblings through the lens of self-obsession, rather than through any rational filter.
It's an interesting trait shared by the majority of our intersectionalistas, this self-obsession. The very things that allow them to interpollate themselves with others and "identify with" them, also appear to them to give them licence to assert that their utterances on behalf of others they interpollate with, have validity.
There's a failure (remarkable given their pontifications about intersecting oppressions) to realise that unless you're effectively "elected" to speak for others, your claims on their behalf have no validity, they're just the rantings of an egotist.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Also, since when has that happened in normal speech, it's normal for people to say "ooh I think I'll go along to visit so and so in hospital, and show a bit of solidarity" (or it is in my family anyway) not "i think i'll stand in solidarity"

showing solidarity has a wide variety of meanings if you see what i mean

Well quite!
And wilfully ignoring half of that wide variety of meanings on the basis that they don't suit her fatuous definition, is the act of an arse.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I'm the trouble starter, ideas instigator,
I'm the twitter addicted, marketing hipster,

I'm a trendstarter, terrific trendstarter,
You're the trend martyr, twisted trend martyr,
I'm a trendstarter, terrific trendstarter.

I'm the idiot you hated, filthy lucre infatuated,
Yeah I'm the pain-in-the-arse, failed intersectionalisted...

Now if only someone composes a rhyme matching the phrases "ideas instigator" and "chronic masturbator"...

 

[SpackleFrog]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...the-concept-of-intersectionality-9146871.html

 

[ViolentPanda]

If this thread has achieved anything, at least it has made us reflect on our own hair texture. Workers of all salons unite, you have nothing to lose but your Alberto VO5!

Bet the woman has never suffered the indignity that is the Jewfro, either!

 

[Pickman's model]

Now if only someone composes a rhyme matching the phrases "ideas instigator" and "chronic masturbator"...

what about masturbation instigator?

 

[ViolentPanda]

I read in another piece of hers where she has the curly haired cheek to damn 'call out culture' - from this she doesn't seem to know what 'performative means. It doesn't mean performing. It doesn't mean putting on a performance and " and go on with our lives.". It means the exact opposite in fact.

I just wasted five minutes of my life reading that link.

 

[butchersapron]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...the-concept-of-intersectionality-9146871.html

An rather good freudian slip from Lees:

What followed was a harangue from Burchill about why the world had gone to pot because of the left constantly slanging itself.

 

[butchersapron]

I just wasted five minutes of my life reading that link.

Yeah, it's self-obsessed drivel given the lie by her real life actions.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Also, at parties I'd have been able to take vicarious pleasure in her increased fame by saying, 'you know laurie penny, that irritating trendy lefty off big brother? She called me a racist on twitter once'

you will be dining out on that story for years

“...So then Larry Olivier turns round and - quick as a flash - tells Amanda Palmer, ‘Well, to be honest, my dear, everything since Sandman has been utter bilge!’ Poor Mandy didn't know where to look, as you can imagine, and then Larry - the mischievous rogue - started asking young Laura - insisting, really - whether she preferred snails or oysters, and she - rather haltingly, I felt - replied, all a-stutter, that she did not eat sea food or in fact any meats or fishes or whatever-the-hell-they-are, because of both - and here Larry gave out a great scoff, ‘SCOFF!’ - her deeply-felt ‘politico-cultural-religious precepts’, I believe she said - in that sort of nasally, high-pitched murmur of hers - and her sense of solidarity with all living creatures... To which Larry jumped in and announced ‘What?! This impish young lad's a girl?!’, before turning his back to her to return to his sherry and a game of chess with Ryan Gosling...”

 

[Pickman's model]

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“...So then Larry Olivier turns round and - quick as a flash - tells Amanda Palmer, ‘Well, to be honest, my dear, everything since Sandman has been utter bilge!’ Poor Mandy didn't know where to look, as you can imagine, and then Larry - the mischievous rogue - started asking young Laura - insisting, really - whether she preferred snails or oysters, and she - rather haltingly, I felt - replied, all a-stutter, that she did not eat sea food or in fact any meats or fishes or whatever-the-hell-they-are, because of both - and here Larry gave out a great scoff, ‘SCOFF!’ - her deeply-felt ‘politico-cultural-religious precepts’, I believe she said - in that sort of nasally, high-pitched murmur of hers - and her sense of solidarity with all living creatures... To which Larry jumped in and announced ‘What?! This impish young lad's a girl?!’, before turning his back to her to return to his sherry and a game of chess with Ryan Gosling...”

not peter ustinov

 

[rekil]

We should anticipate a slew of Twitter War novels and memoirs

For Whom The Call-Out Tolls
The Forging Of An Ideas Instigator
10 Days That Shook My Mentions

 

[frogwoman]

yes. but this in itself highlights the hair tyranny those with shining pates have to live under. why can't she be grateful she has hair and just shut the fuck up about it? how does she imagine this constant harping on about the quality of her hair makes the likes of samuel l jackson feel?

Of course what about those with really thick hair that's difficult to wash? You bald cunts will never know the tyranny of your hair clogging up the plughole, plugholes designed for bald people

THIS IS BALD PRIVILEGE

 

[butchersapron]

20 000 tweets under the sea. (not war, but there you go, give us a sec)

 

[rekil]

1984 Retweets