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what arent cultural norms, the first wave of PC language stuff, or this wave? Arguably the first wave werent cultural norms but are now

The first wave of politically-correct definitions still aren't cultural norms.
How do we know this? Because those definitions, and even the concept itself, are still antagonistic to most of society - they are still not broadly accepted.
 
oh come on all that black leather and death skulls and shit, there's no denying its sexual appeal, gay men have been appropriating it for decades.

Sorry thought you were replying to my nazi uniforms post.

redcoats and dogs here, the nazis did loudly for 30 what the british empire did quietly for 400 years. England prevails!


it is a bit wrong though.
 
The first wave of politically-correct definitions still aren't cultural norms.
How do we know this? Because those definitions, and even the concept itself, are still antagonistic to most of society - they are still not broadly accepted.
i disagree, i think theyre broadly accepted in many key areas (media for example), even if the term PC winds people up, people still act much more PC than they mightve 20 years ago anyway.
 
Just a wee thought out loud on this sex-play stuff. A lot of it sounds to me more like power-play than sex-play, if you see what I mean. This may come from the eroticisation of the dominance / submission relationship. This might go as well for the sort of rougher porn that is produced nowadays - the sex seems to me to be a side issue, the erotic charge comes from the formal submission to hierarchy, not from the sex act itself. This is the sort of thing one would expect from an extremely hierarchical, inflexible social order I guess.

I only got dressed up as a Nazi once, when I was an extra in a film. It was not very erotic. But each to their own and all that.
 
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To be honest if someone wanted to act out a Nazi fantasy with me after I'd finished laughing I would tell them to fuck off and probably dine out on the story for years to come. I'm not sure if that means I need to check my 'not having strange fetishes' privilege or if it means I'm an anti oppression hero :D
 
also remember that time an officers plot to kill the monoballed monster was unsuccessful cos of an oak table that soaked up most of the blast? Death to acorns.
 
To be honest if someone wanted to act out a Nazi fantasy with me after I'd finished laughing I would tell them to fuck off and probably dine out on the story for years to come. I'm not sure if that means I need to check my 'not having strange fetishes' privilege or if it means I'm an anti oppression hero :D


I found it unreasonably hilarious when the papers outed mosely's grandson as a man who paid ladies of the night to dress as nazi camp guards and flog him. Thats gold.
 
Just a wee thought out loud on this sex-play stuff. A lot of it sounds to me more like power-play than sex-play, if you see what I mean. This may come from the eroticisation of the dominance / submission relationship. This might go as well for the sort of rougher porn that is produced nowadays - the sex seems to me to be a side issue, the erotic charge comes from the formal submission to hierarchy, not from the sex act itself. This is not the sort of thing one would expect from an extremely hierarchical, inflexible social order I guess.

I only got dressed up as a Nazi once, when I was an extra in a film. It was not very erotic. But each to their own and all that.

you were Herr Flic in Allo Allo?
 
...to dress as nazi camp guards...

I'm not the type to wail about “you're putting the boards in danger waaah!” - I don't really care - but bear in mind that the millionaire to whom you refer successfully sued Murdoch's rag for making that unsubstantiated claim. You, on the other hand, can't remember who's who in a Danny Dyer film scene (or, indeed, the patrilineage of the person you are potentially defaming).
 
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