Ukip - why are they gaining support?

[Dr Jon]

He should've listened to George Carlin on Religion and God

 

[brogdale]

UKIP Shipping forecast:
https://soundcloud.com/nicholas-peg...ndcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=twitter

"....becoming psychotic...

 

[Gingerman]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-25800285

 

[Gingerman]

Dos'nt the bible also condones buying and selling slaves ? wonder what UKIP loonspud's views are on that ?

 

[brogdale]

Dos'nt the bible also condones buying and selling slaves ? wonder what UKIP loonspud's views are on that ?

Isn't there quite alot of stuff about migration in it as well?

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Isn't there quite alot of stuff about migration in it as well?

... Jehovah is big on ethnic cleansing too, e.g. telling his chosen to massacre the Midianites' women and male children if I recall right.

 

[brogdale]

...and that 'kingdom of god' stuff, with the 'god being the judge of all' schtick...sounds a bit supra-national organisation to me.

 

[Gingerman]

https://twitter.com/UkipWeather

 

[Gingerman]

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Surely this can't be true. . .
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...l-as-the-nations-favourite-party-9069625.html
Can so many people be such twats?
The country is fucked.

 

[brogdale]

Surely this can't be true. . .
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...l-as-the-nations-favourite-party-9069625.html
Can so many people be such twats?
The country is fucked.

UKIP have no MPs, so it's very easy for the poll respondents to have a relatively high 'favourable' view of them etc.

Poll details here.

 

[dennisr]

"its raining men"

 

[Awesome Wells]

"Right, becoming racist, 5."

 

[killer b]

Surely this can't be true. . .
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...l-as-the-nations-favourite-party-9069625.html
Can so many people be such twats?
The country is fucked.

but another poll recently showed that based on policy, greens are the most popular. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE.

maybe they're all full of shit.

 

[Gingerman]

The indefensible defends the undefendable.......

 

[Quartz]

Surely this can't be true. . .
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...l-as-the-nations-favourite-party-9069625.html
Can so many people be such twats?
The country is fucked.

This seems to me to be less of an endorsement of UKIP and more an expression of dissatisfaction with the main parties.

 

[DotCommunist]

oh so thats where niel hamiltons been

 

[Dr Jon]

The indefensible defends the undefendable.......

Kinell! - Mr cash-4-questions has been dug up!
What a shower of Tory have-beens / zombies.
Has Lawson joined them yet?

 

[Gingerman]

When you need someone to defend your party against accusations of being a joke who do you send into the TV studios ? thats right...Mr. "cash-in-a-brown envelope" Neil Hamilton

 

[brogdale]

I think you're right.

I think UKIP are a good example of a political movement that can be described as neither "left-wing" nor "right-wing."

This is my second reply to this post, and tbf I think I owe Phil something of an apology; maybe he is just a little prescient?

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jan/23/nigel-farage-ukip-2010-election-manifesto

Nigel Farage has disowned his party's 2010 election manifesto after he was asked whether the UK Independence party still wanted to bring in a flat tax, introduce a dress code for taxi drivers, regularly deploy armed forces on the street and repaint trains in traditional colours.

The Ukip leader said all of the party's policies were under review and he would not commit to new ones until after the European elections in May this year.

Who know's what the fuck they stand for? Although, in my defence, (Phil), Falange did say this in the interview..

"I don't defend the 2010 manifesto, I didn't put it together. But it will be similar in flavour [in 2015]," he said.

So, still barking right-wing, then?

 

[brogdale]

 

[laptop]

https://twitter.com/UkipWeather

UkipWeather ‏@UkipWeather Jan 20
A band of animosity is moving steadily across Sevenoaks after a laptop was spotted on James Turner Street #benefitsstreet

Repost in almost all u75 threads

 

[friendofdorothy]

Wonder how David Silvester explained the great storms/hurricanes of late '80s when Thatcher was still at the helm and clause 28 was making the govt disapproval of queer lifestyles clear?

 

[Awesome Wells]

Farage looks like an evil monied frog; which is ironic for a little england xenophobe.

 

[Dogsauce]

The Graun has a list of policies from the 2010 manifesto.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jan/23/the-ukip-politices-disowned-by-nigel-farage

IIRC there was also one that required cyclists to dismount on busy roads and walk along the pavement so as not to hold up traffic. Fuck that with a shitty stick.

 

[teqniq]

The Graun has a list of policies from the 2010 manifesto.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jan/23/the-ukip-politices-disowned-by-nigel-farage

IIRC there was also one that required cyclists to dismount on busy roads and walk along the pavement so as not to hold up those of us with big important cars going to big important places. Fuck that with a shitty stick.

fixed for you

 

[Dogsauce]

People with big important cars are seldom doing anything important, they just think they are. Pretty sure we'd manage fine without them. I think a lot of UKIPs base are those sorts, people who describe themselves as 'wealth creators' and talk about 'the productive part of the economy' (you know, the part that tries to sell me extended warranties, flips burgers, comes up with a new idea for marketing sausages, not the bit that teaches kids or cuts out tumours).

 

[brogdale]

More attention from the Telegraph.....

They're loving this "they're all old Labour" schtick...and the theory that UKIP picks up the disaffected from the incumbents....

Ukip's supporters look more like Old Labour than True Blue Tories. Ukip's supporters tend to be blue-collar, older, struggling economically, and often live in poorer, urban areas, with big pools of support in the Labour heartlands of the North. Middle-class suburbanites do not dominate Ukip. They shy away from it.

but, psephologically, this is the key. Needing to reverse the respective polling with Lab, the tories have lost huge swathes of their working class support...

It is certainly true that new recruits to Ukip are more likely to have voted for the Conservatives in 2010 than any other party.

Polling suggests that Lab must have won back 2010 'leakage' to UKIP, but I seriously doubt that the tories will.

 

[gosub]

Polling suggests that Lab must have won back 2010 'leakage' to UKIP, but I seriously doubt that the tories will.

More likely they don't vote for anyone

 

[Obnoxiousness]

I have seen a lot of seemingly innocent propaganda on Facebook. Usually a graphic under the theme of being proud to be British, but without mentioning a political party. I suspect UKIP or BNP are generating these to appeal to the voters who have nationalist feelings.