Ukip - why are they gaining support?

[Dr Jon]

*snip*

We've had Hamilton, now we get Lord "no such thing as climate change" Monckton.
All they need now is Lawson...

 

[ca-nami]

Are you talking about yourself?

pardon me?

I simply said I don't see why we must remain in the EU.

 

[brogdale]

pardon me?

I simply said I don't see why we must remain in the EU.

Do you support other UKIP policies as well?

 

[Gingerman]

His book is a bit special.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Women-Trousers-Demetri-Marchessini/dp/0954510704

He's a bit 'special'......

 

[ca-nami]

Do you support other UKIP policies as well?

er.. no. I simply think the EU is a waste of time.

 

[brogdale]

er.. no. I simply think the EU is a waste of time.

What; none of their other policies? Not one?

 

[laptop]

ca-nami doesn't like paid holidays, or parental leave, or having a health & safety rep, or food standards, or...

 

[ca-nami]

What; none of their other policies? Not one?

I'm a Tory, well supporter not a member.

And paid holidays? they only existed since 1973? wow..

 

[brogdale]

I'm a Tory, well supporter not a member.

And paid holidays? they only existed since 1973? wow..

So why are you against the EU? I thought that capitalists were all comfortable with economic freedoms. You might be supporting the wrong party there.

 

[Gingerman]

Not a swivel eyed loon......

 

[ExtraRefined]

Flyer apparently handed out by a UKIP candidate in Glasgow. Best laugh I've had all week, particularly the last line

 

[butchersapron]

Totally faked.

 

[ViolentPanda]

We've had Hamilton, now we get Lord "no such thing as climate change" Monckton.
All they need now is Lawson...

...for a headbanger hat-trick.

 

[DotCommunist]

could that Lord Monckton look any more like a cartoon villain?

 

[laptop]

could that Lord Monckton look any more like a cartoon villain?

Just one thing missing:

 

[Dogsauce]

Latest Brainthunk from a psychometrically vetted MEP:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...atten-muslims-sign-charter-rejecting-violence

A Ukip MEP believes that British Muslims should sign a special code of conduct and warns that it was a big mistake for Europe to allow "an explosion of mosques across their land".
Gerard Batten, who represents London and is member of the party's executive, told the Guardian on Tuesday that he stood by a "charter of Muslim understanding", which he commissioned in 2006.
The document asks Muslims to sign a declaration rejecting violence and says that certain parts of the Qu'ran that promote "violent physical Jihad" should be regarded as "inapplicable, invalid and non-Islamic".

Can we have a charter for Christians to sign too, stating for example that they won't employ their prejudices on bed and breakfast guests and so on? It'd seem fair.

 

[Gingerman]

Latest Brainthunk from a psychometrically vetted MEP:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...atten-muslims-sign-charter-rejecting-violence



Can we have a charter for Christians to sign too, stating for example that they won't employ their prejudices on bed and breakfast guests and so on? It'd seem fair.

Maybe we can make Muslims wear a special sign as well

 

[elbows]

The story about the kidnap gang leader being a UKIP spokesman for a while was fun, with the added bonus of it now becoming clear that he was previously a tory activist.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26019668

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26032865

 

[laptop]

The story about the kidnap gang leader being a UKIP spokesman for a while was fun, with the added bonus of it now becoming clear that he was previously a tory activist.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26019668

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26032865

So is that second story about his Tory membership a UKIP leak in response, to deflect attention from the fact that they had a convicted kidnapper as a spokescreature? Or did he send his membership card to the BBC?

Loving the story, though. With deepest condolences for the kidnap victims, obv.

 

[brogdale]

Falange will love this....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26367391

Net migration to UK rises

Net flow of 212,000 long-term migrants to UK in year to September 2013, up from 154,000 in 2012, figures show.
The Official for National Statistics said the net flow - the numbers moving here minus the numbers leaving the UK - rose from 154,000 in the previous year.

The Conservatives have said they want to cut net migration to below 100,000 by 2015.

 

[Obnoxiousness]

I think UKIP are gaining support as a protest vote. It's that simple. That is all.

 

[DotCommunist]

I think UKIP are gaining support as a protest vote. It's that simple. That is all.

you may need to eat your words come May.

 

[butchersapron]

I think UKIP are gaining support as a protest vote. It's that simple. That is all.

Protest at what and against who?

 

[Quartz]

you may need to eat your words come May.

I wonder if pollsters count the possibility of voting for one party (e.g. UKIP) in the Euro elections and another in the General Election (e.g. Tory).

 

[DotCommunist]

I wonder if pollsters count the possibility of voting for one party (e.g. UKIP) in the Euro elections and another in the General Election (e.g. Tory).

I should think they do- its logical to assume that some voters would happily have ukip in europe but when it came down to 'its labour or the tories at home' would vote tory. Thing is if the UKIP victories in the euros are big, then surely that might also bolster their credibility as a serious party among those for whom it is, atm, a protest vote.

 

[Quartz]

I should think they do- its logical to assume that some voters would happily have ukip in europe but when it came down to 'its labour or the tories' would vote tory.

I'm not sure if I've seen that reflected in polls.

Thing is if the UKIP victories in the euros are big, then surely that might also bolster their credibility as a serious party among those for whom it is, atm, a protest vote.

I agree. But it will be very interesting if there's a near-total Tory wipeout with a huge switch to UKIP. Even so, FPTP means that UKIP has a huge mountain to climb.

 

[butchersapron]

I wonder if pollsters count the possibility of voting for one party (e.g. UKIP) in the Euro elections and another in the General Election (e.g. Tory).

Polls for specific elections tend to ask how you intend to vote in that specific poll.

There is not going to be a neat-total tory wipeout with a huge switch to UKIP. No one, and i mean no one, thinks that there's even the remotest possibility of such an outcome.

 

[DotCommunist]

Polls for specific elections tend to ask how you intend to vote in that specific poll.

There is not going to be a neat-total tory wipeout with a huge switch to UKIP. No one, and i mean no one, thinks that there's even the remotest possibility of such an outcome.

any ideas where they have a chance of a seat? could be a betting opportunity.

 

[butchersapron]

Here's the favs for a Farage run.

 

[Quartz]

any ideas where they have a chance of a seat? could be a betting opportunity.

No idea. As you know, I'm rather removed from the situation.