ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
They do. It's a primary variable.
Ukip - why are they gaining support?
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They do. It's a primary variable.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
I could imagine some on the left (or Labour supporters) strategically supporting UKIP in the Euros just to shit the tories up a bit and make them distance themselves further from the (electable) centre.
There will be lots of talking up of their chances in the media, just to create a 'story' when they do well - followed by numerous exposees in the loyal tory press ahead of the general election to bring people back to the fold. It just feels like a fucking game.
There will be lots of talking up of their chances in the media, just to create a 'story' when they do well - followed by numerous exposees in the loyal tory press ahead of the general election to bring people back to the fold. It just feels like a fucking game.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Some really interesting ones there, particularly Boston, which is the only place that I've seen multiple pro-UKIP bumper stickers in one car park.
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I want to be in Europe.
Protest vote for Tories who are not happy with Johnny Foreigner types who are giving them first world problems.
I think immigration is a good thing. I will be considering it myself if this country continues to float evermore right-wing.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I want to be in Europe.
what I was alluding to was that the coming euros are going to be something of a litmus test for UKIP support- as outlined above the support in the euros does not automatically translate into victory on the mainland, but as indicators go its what we'll have other than the polls and bys. In which they keep beating the lib dems and coming third. Which is quite disturbing.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
From the horse's mouth, as it were....
I think Andrew, in the cravat, left his telly on whilst Skyping.
I think Andrew, in the cravat, left his telly on whilst Skyping.
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British politics are disturbing. What do we have on the left to vote for?
I see UKIP and the Tories in the same light as BNP and EDL. I am sick of all the "Proud to be British" stuff being pushed around Facebook. It is veiled nationalism and will monstrously grow if people feed it.
I see UKIP and the Tories in the same light as BNP and EDL. I am sick of all the "Proud to be British" stuff being pushed around Facebook. It is veiled nationalism and will monstrously grow if people feed it.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I not sure it's very veiled tbh.
But don't get overly anxious; UKIP will not win any seats, (perhaps save one ie. Falange himself), and if they manage to come second in many constituencies they will have completely sunk any hope the tories may have of forming an administration.
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Chris and Daryl don't like trains, then.
The scrapping of HS2 is a policy I didn't know about.
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Anything to piss off the Tories.
Apparently, UKIP have borrowed their conference slogan, 'Love Britain. Vote UKIP' from the BNP. 
Still, I respected rather than liked his defence of it, by referencing the BNP's use of the Union flag (though he calls it the Union Jack). He's really good at turning aside blunders.
Still, I respected rather than liked his defence of it, by referencing the BNP's use of the Union flag (though he calls it the Union Jack). He's really good at turning aside blunders.
Buckaroo
Donkey piss and tractors
Apparently, UKIP have borrowed their conference slogan, 'Love Britain. Vote UKIP' from the BNP.
Still, I respected rather than liked his defence of it, by referencing the BNP's use of the Union flag (though he calls it the Union Jack). He's really good at turning aside blunders.
No volume on that but probably a good thing.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Ofcom has just recognised UKIP as 'a major political party' for the euro elections and so will, for the first time, qualify for the max number of party political broadcasts as tories, labour and lib-dem swines.
fair enough
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
All in all it's turned out to be a pretty poor day for dave.
Buckaroo
Donkey piss and tractors
fair skinned enough
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
The more shitty days Dave has up to and after the elections of 2014 & 15 the better....
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Brechin Sprout
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does everybody who thinks HS2 is a colossal waste of money not like trains, then?Chris and Daryl don't like trains, then.
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Farage doesn't like foreigners on trains... that's for sure. But no, I was making light of the two video respondents who stated that they didn't like trains. Not an entirely strange statement to make, but interesting that two people, interviewed by the same crew, said similar things. I think some prompting took place; the inserting of thoughts.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
White face, blue collar, grey hair: the 'left behind' voters only Ukip understands
Farage's core voters are not EU-obsessed Tories, but working-class men. Labour cannot afford to ignore their real concerns
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Farage is no catch-all populist; his appeal is concentrated in specific groups and is utterly alien to others. Ukip has virtually no support among the financially secure and the thirty- and fortysomething university graduates who dominate politics and the media. Support is weak among women, white-collar professionals and the young. Ethnic-minority voters shun the party totally.
Make no mistake, this is a revolt dominated by white faces, blue collars and grey hair: angry, old, white working-class men who left school at the earliest opportunity and lack the qualifications to get ahead in 21st-century Britain. That Ukip's core voters are middle-class Tories animated by the single-issue of Europe is the biggest myth in Westminster. In fact, Ukip is the most working-class-dominated party since Michael Foot's Labour in 1983. They struggle financially, worry about the future, and loathe the political class, not just Cameron and the Conservatives.
Farage's core voters are not EU-obsessed Tories, but working-class men. Labour cannot afford to ignore their real concerns
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Farage is no catch-all populist; his appeal is concentrated in specific groups and is utterly alien to others. Ukip has virtually no support among the financially secure and the thirty- and fortysomething university graduates who dominate politics and the media. Support is weak among women, white-collar professionals and the young. Ethnic-minority voters shun the party totally.
Make no mistake, this is a revolt dominated by white faces, blue collars and grey hair: angry, old, white working-class men who left school at the earliest opportunity and lack the qualifications to get ahead in 21st-century Britain. That Ukip's core voters are middle-class Tories animated by the single-issue of Europe is the biggest myth in Westminster. In fact, Ukip is the most working-class-dominated party since Michael Foot's Labour in 1983. They struggle financially, worry about the future, and loathe the political class, not just Cameron and the Conservatives.
Buckaroo
Donkey piss and tractors
Nothing about teeth and beer bellies, nothing.
teqniq
DisMembered
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Taking the piss is a fundamental human right.
Absolutely. However, having Arts Council (i.e. public) money to do it is a different matter. Then it could be construed as propaganda.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The arts council are not funding the comedy, the show in any way. They, as they are supposed to, help fund a venue that the show is to appear at.
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Arts Council part funding a venue, and then influencing bookings? I suppose a non-political proviso would be sensible, particularly if the BNP started touring a musical.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Why would they then get to decide whose booked? That's up to the venue managers.
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Because they put up funding for the venues, allegedly. He who pays the piper... etc. 
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My dog pulls this face when he's getting a lot of attention....
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