Ukip - why are they gaining support?

[butchersapron]

I dunno, send me some of your stuff & I'll consider it.

They write on here. You ignore them. You smear them.

 

[Idris2002]

That's it. Blame it on Japan. You fuck.

Get help.

 

[krtek a houby]

That clearly and cleanly is a of of bollocks that doesn't help your credibility.

Like you fucking care about my "credibility" - you've ridiculed, mocked, bullied and abused me here for years. But heaven forbid I remind you of that because then it's all about me. Me, ME, ME

 

[krtek a houby]

Get help.

Get bent

 

[Idris2002]

Get bent

Get smart.

And I don't think butchers is bullying you, though he is a mug to rise to you.

 

[butchersapron]

That's it. Blame it on Japan. You fuck.

Of all the worst posts ever.

Time to go away again.

If anyone wants to do the chronology on this kretk went around attacking his targets on non-political stuff - asking them to martyr him. Again. WE are in the clear. His attempted manipulation, just sad.

 

[krtek a houby]

Get smart.

And I don't think butchers is bullying you, though he is a mug to rise to you.

He has the option to ignore my posts or, as I've suggested - he can pm me and tell me what he wants me to say, think & do. Rather than bore us all to pieces.

And perhaps he could explain why he's kept up this campaign of terror and abuse for the best part of a decade now.

 

[Idris2002]

He has the option to ignore my posts or, as I've suggested - he can pm me and tell me what he wants me to say, think & do. Rather than bore us all to pieces.

And perhaps he could explain why he's kept up this campaign of terror and abuse for the best part of a decade now.

A campaign of terror and abuse? Are you serious?

 

[krtek a houby]

Time to go away again.

Please do. You stop your campaign and I'll be much more modulated and observe the decorums.

 

[krtek a houby]

A campaign of terror and abuse? Are you serious?

You're goddam right

 

[emanymton]

What have IS, the US government and butchersapron got in common?

They all engage in campaigns of terror.

 

[SpackleFrog]

That's it. Blame it on Japan. You fuck.

Are you on crack son? Who blamed Japan? You total muppet.

 

[William of Walworth]

UKIP75

That well-known Faragist forum ....

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Blazer eating UKIPpers

 

[butchersapron]

Only two hours to go!

 

[Idris2002]

23 things that look like our beloved leader:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/things-that-look-like-nigel-farage

 

[butchersapron]

Everyone ready?

 

[krtek a houby]

Are you on crack son? Who blamed Japan? You total muppet.

Someone brought Japan into the argument which has nothing, nothing to do with UKIP and this country.

 

[DotCommunist]

did you pop out for a sandwich before coming to the thread?

 

[krtek a houby]

Pie and a pint

 

[andysays]

.

 

[krtek a houby]

 

[DownwardDog]

Reminds me of Heinz Knocke's description of Goering. I can come to no other conclusion than that the Reichsmarschall was wearing cosmetics.

 

[Idris2002]

Reminds me of Heinz Knocke's description of Goering. I can come to no other conclusion than that the Reichsmarschall was wearing cosmetics.

 

[ViolentPanda]

'are you white' the litmus test of anti-racism everywhere

Everyone knows that the privilege of honkyness outweighs all other privilege.

 

[DotCommunist]

Everyone knows that the privilege of honkyness outweighs all other privilege.

its a burden

 

[ViolentPanda]

That's it. Blame it on Japan. You fuck.

I haven't blamed anything on Japan. I've said that you're carping about UK racism, when the Japanese state has a reputation that's as bad as or worse than the UK (and that's without mentioning the Ainu).

I won't expect an apology, as you're probably too much of a self-righteous cunt to make one.

 

[Idris2002]

its a burden

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I haven't blamed anything on Japan. .

Not even the bridge over the river Kwai?

 

[JimW]

Another UKIP-related post from Kenan Malik: http://kenanmalik.wordpress.com/2014/11/05/populism-what-why-how/

Thought this bit was good:

...The ‘left behind’ have suffered largely because of economic and political changes. But they have come to see their marginalization primarily as a cultural loss. In part, the same social and economic changes that have led to the marginalization of the ‘left behind’ have also made it far more difficult to view that marginalization in political terms. The very decline of the economic and political power of the working class and the weakening of labour organizations and social democratic parties, have helped obscure the economic and political roots of social problems. And as culture has become the medium through which social issues are refracted, so the ‘left behind’ have also come to see their problems in cultural terms. They, too, have turned to the language of identity to express their discontent.
Once class identity comes to be seen as a cultural attribute, then those regarded as culturally different are often viewed as threats. Hence the growing hostility to immigration. Immigration has become the means through which many of the ‘left behind’ perceive their sense of loss of social status. It has become both a catch-all explanation for unacceptable social change and a symbol of the failure of the liberal elite to understand the views of voters. The EU, meanwhile, has become symbolic of the democratic deficit in many people’s lives, and of the distance (social, political and physical) between ordinary people and the political class...

And here he echoes what's been said by many here:

So, how do we challenge the populists? First, we need to stop being so obsessed by the parties themselves, and start dealing with the issues that lead many voters to support them. It is true that many of the policies, even of relatively mainstream parties such as UKIP, are repellent, and many of their leaders hold obnoxiously racist, sexist and homophobic views. It is true, too, that many of their supporters are hardcore racists. But this should not blind us to the fact that many others are drawn to such parties for very different reasons – because these seem to be the only organizations that speak to their grievances and express their frustrations with mainstream politics. Given this, simply exposing UKIP or Front National politicians as racists will change little, especially given that virtually all politicians are busy stoking fears about immigration. It is not that such exposés should not be done, but that they are futile if wielded as the principal tactic.

(Edited a bit more into first quote)