UK Votes to Leave EU

[weltweit]

i do not know how you can say that when you don't know what class they're from. many of them will come from e.g. a/b, and i think that seeing a voting breakdown by class then age would be informative.

Shafted? By who? When? What was the class crossbreak for the young?

The graphic was pretty clear that young people, as a group, voted decisively to remain and older people voted to leave. There is a class breakdown at the bottom of the categories but each age category is not broken down by class no.

 

[Reiabuzz]

Well done guys. You can judge someone by their mates.

European far right hails Brexit vote

 

[butchersapron]

The graphic was pretty clear that young people, as a group, voted decisively to remain and older people voted to leave. There is a class breakdown at the bottom of the categories but each age category is not broken down by class no.

Do you know what shafted means? Daft term to use.

And yes, on it's own it tells us one thing and one thing only. That's not very much at all though.

 

[The39thStep]

It was a depressing poll in a multitude of ways, this being one of them. Under-35s, surely those most under 'threat' from immigrants taking our jobs, voted 2:1 to stay.

Stupid young people, eh?

Interesting graphic, basically young people got shafted!

As did the AB occupational background

 

[chilango]

I'm not sure what UKIP have left now they've had their way, even their name is redundant now. tbh, it'll be nice if they carry on splitting the tory vote.

Carrying on filling the vacuum left behind by Labour's retreat into middle England.

 

[butchersapron]

Well done guys. You can judge someone by their mates.

European far right hails Brexit vote

Any chance of replying to my post from this morning?

Btw, thanks for the sophistication you've brought to this discussion. I'm a bit hmmm because if some joker tried to invent the perfect smug remainer they'd invent you. It's all too perfect.

 

[The39thStep]

Well done guys. You can judge someone by their mates.

European far right hails Brexit vote

And in what way would any of those voting leave , apart from those who are far right, regard these groups as their mates?

 

[butchersapron]

As did the AB occupational background

Bingo! Shafted.

 

[The39thStep]

Bingo! Shafted.

Sure I read somewhere about a very high student vote from that age group

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

They've legitimised UKIP. Of course not all the leave voters are racist but you can be damn sure that all the racists voted to leave.

Give me a practical definition of what 'legitimised' means in this context. The second sentence is meaningless, BTW.

 

[krtek a houby]

Give me a practical definition of what 'legitimised' means in this context. The second sentence is meaningless, BTW.

Its two fingers us to us immigrants who fucking made your country "great", that's what it is.

Fucking shit hole.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Its two fingers us to us immigrants who fucking made your country "great", that's what it is.

Fucking shit hole.

Immigrants did more than that. They gave birth to me! But don't let inconvenient facts get in the way of your stereotyping of all Leave supporters as thick racists and little englanders. Anyway, how about addressing the points I made in my last post?

 

[Orang Utan]

Its two fingers us to us immigrants who fucking made your country "great", that's what it is.

Fucking shit hole.

oh the irony

 

[krtek a houby]

Immigrants did more than that. They gave birth to me! But don't let inconvenient facts get in the way of your stereotyping of all Leave supporters as thick racists and little englanders. Anyway, how about addressing the points I made in my last post.

I am not stereotyping all Leave supporters as thick racists and little englanders. But there are certainly a sizeable number of them.

 

[krtek a houby]

oh the irony

Fuck your irony.

 

[Ole]

Its two fingers us to us immigrants who fucking made your country "great", that's what it is.

Fucking shit hole.

You cheeky cunt. Don't go speaking for all immigrants while you're at it.

 

[Orang Utan]

Fuck your irony.

now then, no need to be so rude.

 

[krtek a houby]

You cheeky cunt. Don't go speaking for all immigrants while you're at it.

ah, the hooligan apologist. Fuck you, too.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

I am not stereotyping all Leave supporters as thick racists and little englanders. But there are certainly a sizeable number of them.

Answer my points. What do you even mean by 'legitimising' UKIP?

 

[Orang Utan]

calm down fella. you're having a tantrum

 

[editor]

Just what I thought. Cowardly white little englander. Post another youtube link, brave lad. Pickman might lick your knob cheese off for you again.
Me; I'm a bit more choosy. I'd rather rim fascist Nigel, at least he speaks his mind.

Overstepping the mark here. Please start up Operation Neck Wind In.

 

[mauvais]

I said it was indicative of wider contempt for democratic structures process and accountability in the EU central leadership. It is. Whether someone moaned about the particular way in which one particular example of this undemocratic disdain happened before it happened is exactly the what 'belated and yet simultaneously premature point scoring' is. And also irrelevant.

It's ok, i get. You're prepared to swallow this and other such things. Others aren't. Again, it's one large part of why you lost.

Unless you can show that a nuanced Lexit was a significant component in 'my' loss (like I'd forgotten it's happened), which I doubt, in reality most voters have no idea whether the EU is meaningfully democratic or not - barely how it works or what it is at all. Only a caricature, for better or worse. And no, not because they're all stupid proles, before we wade through that. This exit rhetoric might well be indicative of its character, but it's fine detail in a cloud of fog that almost noone is peering into. So it was never a 'large part' of Brexit, was it.

None of that was the point anyway, which was - not particularly importantly - that it's somewhat pointless to complain about the process by which you're to be ejected from a club that you chose to resign from because you didn't like its processes.

Especially when that's the least of the troubles your divorcing partner might wreak upon you.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Fuck off white boy.

Oh my! I only just noticed this one.

 

[inva]

Unless you can show that a nuanced Lexit was a significant component in 'my' loss (like I'd forgotten it's happened), which I doubt, in reality most voters have no idea whether the EU is meaningfully democratic or not - barely how it works or what it is at all. Only a caricature, for better or worse. And no, not because they're all stupid proles, before we wade through that. This exit rhetoric might well be indicative of its character, but it's fine detail in a cloud of fog that almost noone is peering into. So it was never a 'large part' of Brexit, was it.

None of that was the point anyway, which was - not particularly importantly - that it's somewhat pointless to complain about the process by which you're to be ejected from a club that you chose to resign from because you didn't like its processes.

I reckon most people know the eu's not democratic, I've heard it from loads of people that it's part of why they were voting leave

 

[danny la rouge]

Fuck you danny la rouge, fuck you to connaught.

Not sure what I've done, but it sounds fun. So count me in.

 

[mauvais]

I reckon most people know the eu's not democratic, I've heard it from loads of people that it's part of why they were voting leave

Of course. But not how or why.

 

[inva]

Of course. But not how or why.

why because they rightly didn't feel it represented or listened to them or that they had any means to change it. I think the same, personally.

 

[butchersapron]

Unless you can show that a nuanced Lexit was a significant component in 'my' loss (like I'd forgotten it's happened), which I doubt, in reality most voters have no idea whether the EU is meaningfully democratic or not - barely how it works or what it is at all. Only a caricature, for better or worse. And no, not because they're all stupid proles, before we wade through that. This exit rhetoric might well be indicative of its character, but it's fine detail in a cloud of fog that almost noone is peering into. So it was never a 'large part' of Brexit, was it.

None of that was the point anyway, which was - not particularly importantly - that it's somewhat pointless to complain about the process by which you're to be ejected from a club that you chose to resign from because you didn't like its processes.

Especially when that's the least of the troubles your divorcing partner might wreak upon you.

I didn't mention a lexit. A revulsion at a pompous high-minded defence of democratic ideals that is breached whenever the central leadership decides it is expedient to do so is repugnant to many not just on the left. Maybe not so to post-ideologists such as yourself though.

Of course you don't need to know which specific articles of treaties are being abrogated at the whim of those who wrote them and still control the eu to recognise that it's anti-democratic, anti-accountability. Nor is highlighting one such abrogation when it happens an example of ignorance. (Do you know the exact details of each article that render the eu democratic or non-democratic? I'd guess not, as democracy doesn't seem to be a thing you're that bothered about).

Again, all this is a big factor in why you lost.

 

[free spirit]

I reckon most people know the eu's not democratic, I've heard it from loads of people that it's part of why they were voting leave

it's odd that only 36% could be arsed to vote in the actual democratic european parliament elections if they're so concerned about EU democracy.

 

[emanymton]

Boris Johnson says 'no need for haste' to start EU exit negotiations

I bet. I don't think he ever actually wanted to leave. He has tried to play both sides of the tory party and I think he was banking on a remain win, allowing him to get the support of the exit tories while getting the result he wanted. I hope he's as fucked of with the result as Cameron and Osborne.