UK Votes to Leave EU

[Nine Bob Note]

Best of three anyone?

You got me stumped.

 

[Pickman's model]

You got me stumped.

add in farage and a couple more and you've a full house

 

[butchersapron]

Is it balls. Noone but self-hating politics geeks ever gave a noteworthy, voteworthy fuck about the implementation of Article 50 or anything remotely like it. The EU is as undemocratic or not as it ever was with or without this, a criticism that amounts to belated and yet simultaneously premature point scoring.

Noone on earth is going to be surprised by the EU reaction. No country, or any entity at all, certainly not Britain were it disadvantaged, would suffer this existentially threatening hold music for any longer that it had to. The event alone might bring the debt crisis back to its full ferocity. Whether they can actually do anything regards accelerating matters remains to be seen.

When the EU properly and tangibly trashes Britain in whatever way it can, again entirely predictably and not entirely unjustifiably, then you might have a point.

I said it was indicative of wider contempt for democratic structures process and accountability in the EU central leadership. It is. Whether someone moaned about the particular way in which one particular example of this undemocratic disdain happened before it happened is exactly the what 'belated and yet simultaneously premature point scoring' is. And also irrelevant.

It's ok, i get. You're prepared to swallow this and other such things. Others aren't. Again, it's one large part of why you lost.

 

[krtek a houby]

Look mate...I did not say they gave the racists a platform. People have a right to vote out ... the are sound reasons for doing so. Those responsible for racism are the racists and those who spread and create racist arguments and policies.
I just wish the result was different and hope my fears are unfounded.
I do not wish my views to be used in your war of words with other people on here cos none of that interests me

The vote has legitimised racism. The UK is finished; which is the only good thing to come out of the whole sorry affair.

 

[Dogsauce]

The guy in blue celebrating on the front cover of the Sun is C18

 

[Ole]

How the United Kingdom voted on Thursday... and why - Lord Ashcroft Polls

Very interesting reading.

 

[campanula]

Within the Cambridge bubble, the (very few) open leavers have, to a large extent, concentrated on the lack of democratic process and a real urge to derail the opportunistic housing investment in the area. My daughter though, in her rural Norfolk constituency, has a very different take on it...with immigration high on the agenda, but mainly the grinding poverty of east Norfolk - a huge wealth disparity there with landowners and farmers in hugely in favour of remaining (all that cheap eastern european seasonal work) and almost everyone else keen to leave, particularly since flood defences have also been largely ignored.
We are, at the moment, not on speaking terms (the words Quisling and capitulator have been flung about).

 

[littlebabyjesus]

How the United Kingdom voted on Thursday... and why - Lord Ashcroft Polls

Very interesting reading.

It was a depressing poll in a multitude of ways, this being one of them. Under-35s, surely those most under 'threat' from immigrants taking our jobs, voted 2:1 to stay.

Stupid young people, eh?

 

[2hats]

add in farage and a couple more and you've a full house

Do some packs come with more than two jokers?

 

[Wilf]

The vote has legitimised racism. The UK is finished; which is the only good thing to come out of the whole sorry affair.

I think you've got this the wrong way round. People voted leave for all kinds of reasons and it would be very one eyed to deny racism and xenophobia was in the mix. But what are you suggesting - that a lid should be kept on it? Where would that lead? The referendum didn't cause racism, being fucked over by neo-liberals at home and abroad is what caused the divisions. Being fucked over is the issue.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

The vote has legitimised racism.

How the hell has it legitimised racism? Most people who voted leave are not racist. Racists should, and will, continue to be called out by non-racists. That battle would continue whatever the referendum result.

 

[Pickman's model]

Do some packs come with more than two jokers?

doesn't matter, the scaffold will take them all.

 

[Pickman's model]

The guy in blue celebrating on the front cover of the Sun is C18

 

[krtek a houby]

How the hell has it legitimised racism? Most people who voted leave are not racist. Racists should, and will, continue to be called out by non-racists. That battle would continue whatever the referendum result.

They've legitimised UKIP. Of course not all the leave voters are racist but you can be damn sure that all the racists voted to leave.

 

[hot air baboon]

....do we call it B-Day...for Brexit Day & on the assumption the use of the bidets in No.10 must have been quite extensive over the last 12 hours or so...

 

[1%er]

Meanwhile the EU are getting lawyers to look at speeding up our exit, to avoid a situation where "a whole continent is taken hostage because of an internal fight in the Tory party" (Schulz, president of EU parliament)

According to EU lawyers interviewed on Bloomberg news, it is only the country that decides to leave which can trigger Article 50 the other EU countries can not start the process, they went on to say there are so many flaws and gaps in the way Article 50 is written, it only covers how an EU negotiator is selected and the time limit (which is 2 years but can be extended by agreement).

 

[YouSir]

They've legitimised UKIP. Of course not all the leave voters are racist but you can be damn sure that all the racists voted to leave.

A few million votes legitimized UKIP.

 

[butchersapron]

According to EU lawyers interviewed on Bloomberg news, it is only the country that decides to leave which can trigger Article 50 the other EU countries can not start the process, they went on to say there are so many flaws and gaps in the way Article 50 is written, it only covers how an EU negotiator is selected and the time limit (which is 2 years but can be extended by agreement).

Of course it is, how else could it possibly work. Which is why they have to formally wait on the new tory leader. They have nothing to try to speed up until the thing is triggered.

 

[Fingers]

My friend's mother on Facebook stated she voted leave because 'English people are not allowed to fly the Union Flag because of foreigners'.

If I did not know it was her mother, I would have torn her a new one for being such a dick.

I repeatably ask her if she is sure she is really her mother.

She then proudly stated that the Union Flag is flying at her place of work today, presumably as it has for a long time.

 

[1%er]

Of course it is, how else could it possibly work. Which is why they have to formally wait on the new tory leader. They have nothing to speed up until the thing is triggered.

Yes that it why I answered the point made "Meanwhile the EU are getting lawyers to look at speeding up our exit".

 

[no-no]

They've legitimised UKIP. Of course not all the leave voters are racist but you can be damn sure that all the racists voted to leave.

I'm not sure what UKIP have left now they've had their way, even their name is redundant now. tbh, it'll be nice if they carry on splitting the tory vote.

 

[two sheds]

why can't they get some of the money at least from e.g. the duchy of cornwall?

and second home owners

 

[weltweit]

How the United Kingdom voted on Thursday... and why - Lord Ashcroft Polls

Very interesting reading.

Interesting graphic, basically young people got shafted!

 

[krtek a houby]

I'm not sure what UKIP have left now they've had their way, even their name is redundant now. tbh, it'll be nice if they carry on splitting the tory vote.

Farage and his merry band enjoy the limelight too much. And as has been pointed out to me numerous times, there is a demographic that embrace UKIP.

 

[butchersapron]

and second home owners

Or the money that the workers make for business. Is it really so odd for regions to get money from national states given well, that this is where the state coffers come from? I really don't get why that was posted.

 

[Pickman's model]

Interesting graphic, basically young people got shafted!

i do not know how you can say that when you don't know what class they're from. many of them will come from e.g. a/b, and i think that seeing a voting breakdown by class then age would be informative.

 

[killer b]

Or the money that the workers make for business. Is it really so odd for regions to get money from national states given well, that this is where the state coffers come from? I really don't get why that was posted.

People have been posting it all day. it's 'ironic', apparently.

 

[butchersapron]

Interesting graphic, basically young people got shafted!

Shafted? By who? When? What was the class crossbreak for the young?

 

[camouflage]

They've legitimised UKIP. Of course not all the leave voters are racist but you can be damn sure that all the racists voted to leave.

It's possible that some racists, believing in a Greater White European Fortress Reich... actually voted Remain.

 

[butchersapron]

People have been posting it all day. it's 'ironic', apparently.

Fuck you danny la rouge, fuck you to connaught.