UK Votes to Leave EU

[DotCommunist]

Easy, just put border posts round the congestion charging zone.

m25 is motorway- deep foundations. They could build a wall on it

 

[Wilf]

m25 is motorway- deep foundations. They could build a wall on it

(((White walkers)))

 

[Orang Utan]

London is pretty much an independent city state anyway. That petition is so stupid and smug

 

[hot air baboon]

Best of three anyone?

 

[Reiabuzz]

London is pretty much an independent city state anyway. That petition is so stupid and smug

If we were independent we'd still be in Europe instead of facing another recession..

I guess the irony is that it won't actually hit London as much as the regions that did vote for Gove/Farage's mental plan

 

[editor]

What about all the businesses that are pushed out of London/out of business by the extortionate rent increases? We're talking a relatively small number of highly paid people who take far more to themselves than is moral and make everything that bit harder for everyone else in the process.

That's never going to change overnight, loathsome though it is, but what will change is that a lot of local people will lose their jobs and a lot of local small businesses will also suffer. I don't think there's anything to celebrate there.

 

[sim667]

Billion.

Oops...

 

[sim667]

and will that be enough?

Of course not.

 

[chilango]

London of course. Where else exists?

Then, no, you're not gonna get a house price crash. Sorry.

 

[Wilf]

Joshua Rozenberg on the significance of Cameron not triggering the the article 50 (allows time for further negotiations, which could be put to a general election). I suspect he's grasping at straws. There's a legal route to further negotiations, but it's unlikely to become a political reality:
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...cle-50-lisbon-treaty-referendum-david-Cameron

Edit - link doesn't seem to be working, but the article is there on the grauniad site

 

[no-no]

Fascists across Europe are congratulating us now. Ugh.

and Tony Benns giving you a back slap from beyond the grave, so fucking what?

 

[mauvais]

Joshua Rozenberg on the significance of Cameron not triggering the the article 50 (allows time for further negotiations, which could be put to a general election). I suspect he's grasping at straws. There's a legal route to further negotiations, but it's unlikely to become a political reality:
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...cle-50-lisbon-treaty-referendum-david-Cameron

Edit - link doesn't seem to be working, but the article is there on the grauniad site

Meanwhile the EU are getting lawyers to look at speeding up our exit, to avoid a situation where "a whole continent is taken hostage because of an internal fight in the Tory party" (Schulz, president of EU parliament)

 

[Pickman's model]

Meanwhile the EU are getting lawyers to look at speeding up our exit, to avoid a situation where "a whole continent is taken hostage because of an internal fight in the Tory party" (Schulz, president of EU parliament)

yeh well good luck with that.
i see parliament due to sit on monday, which will be interesting. but they're buggering off on their hols on 21/7.

 

[butchersapron]

Meanwhile the EU are getting lawyers to look at speeding up our exit, to avoid a situation where "a whole continent is taken hostage because of an internal fight in the Tory party" (Schulz, president of EU parliament)

Oh look, the EU central leadership looking to break the articles of the treaty it imposed whenever it feels like it.

 

[mauvais]

yeh well good luck with that.

when's parliament next scheduled to sit?

Which one? Ours, Monday.

 

[Pickman's model]

Oh look, the EU central leadership looking to break the articles of the treaty it imposed whenever it feels like it.

fail at the first hurdle.

 

[Pickman's model]

yeh well good luck with that.
i see parliament due to sit on monday, which will be interesting. but they're buggering off on their hols on 21/7.

Which one? Ours, Monday.

 

[Sprocket.]

I guess the irony is that it won't actually hit London as much as the regions that did vote for Gove/Farage's mental plan

Sadly though, we didn't all vote for it either.
Westminster and the London administration left these deprived, scrap heap bound communities to the wolves that spew out division and hate. The Labour Party just relied for decades on voters support and ignored people's very real fears.
Out of a workforce of forty, there are only five of us voted to remain. The racist shite I have had to listen to for ten years from former miners and steelworkers has made me ill.
David Cameron is as much to blame.

 

[mauvais]

Oh look, the EU central leadership looking to break the articles of the treaty it imposed whenever it feels like it.

That's the complaint? It's like moaning that your wife packed her bags and left after you'd told her it was over but before you'd got her to sign the divorce papers.

 

[butchersapron]

That's the complaint? It's like moaning that your wife packed her bags and left after you'd told her it was over but before you'd got her to sign the divorce papers.

What? I think imposing a treaty with a section that specifies how leaving the union is to happen then trying to change the rules after someone exercises their right to leave under the terms of the treaty is indicative of the undemocratic nature of the EU. You just seem to think this is a side thing and so can be dismissed by inept similie. I agree, it probably is unimportant for you and a lot of the people who voted remain. It's also one reason why you lost.

 

[no-no]

there's a thread on that, unfortunately it seems there is no plan for what happens when their protest vote actually helps to usher in the UK right's wet dreams version of reality.

They spend years / decades telling everyone else how shit they are.... time to face their own medicine, this is what they campaigned for, so they need to own their victory and come up with a plan for dealing with the consequences sharpish IMO.

What was the plan for reigning in the EU's austerity measures had we stayed in? Same ones the Greeks tried?

 

[Pickman's model]

What was the plan for reigning in the EU's austerity measures had we stayed in? Same ones the Greeks tried?

ruling or restraining?

 

[Treacle Toes]

People need to sleep....WTAF?

EU Referendum: Leave Cornwall Demands Government Replaces EU Millions

The leader of Cornwall Council has demanded the UK Government replaces the £60million a year of EU support it will lose as a result of the Brexit vote.

John Pollard issued an urgent statement amidst the news UK had voted to leave the EU.

He said: “Now that we know the UK will be leaving the EU we will be taking urgent steps to ensure that the UK Government protects Cornwall’s position in any negotiations.

STEFAN ROUSSEAU/PA WIRE
Vote Leave campaigners stand by the Vote Leave campaign bus in Truro, Cornwall
“We will be insisting that Cornwall receives investment equal to that provided by the EU programme which have averaged £60m per year over the last ten years.”

Cornwall voted Leave at 182,665 to 140,540 who balloted Remain.

EU Referendum: Leave Cornwall Demands Government Replaces EU Millions

 

[butchersapron]

What's wrong with that?

 

[no-no]

ruling or restraining?

Whatever's effective, if there is/was a plan I've not seen it.

 

[Pickman's model]

Whatever's effective, if there is/was a plan I've not seen it.

no reigning ruling or reining restraining?

 

[Pickman's model]

People need to sleep....WTAF?


EU Referendum: Leave Cornwall Demands Government Replaces EU Millions

why can't they get some of the money at least from e.g. the duchy of cornwall?

 

[no-no]

no reigning ruling or reining restraining?

ah! reining!

 

[killer b]

What's wrong with that?

It's been confusing me all day too. a) the ellision of Cornwall Council with the voters of Cornwall, and b) the idea that all the EU grant money is from the EU, not a part of the money the UK government pays to the EU, given back to the country with a ringfence.

 

[mauvais]

What? I think imposing a treaty with a section that specifies how leaving the union is to happen then trying to change the rules after someone exercises their right to leave under the terms of the treaty is indicative of the undemocratic nature of the EU. You just seem to think this is a side thing and so can be dismissed by inept similie. I agree, it probably is unimportant for you and a lot of the people who voted remain. It's also one reason why you lost.

Is it balls. Noone but self-hating politics geeks ever gave a noteworthy, voteworthy fuck about the implementation of Article 50 or anything remotely like it. The EU is as undemocratic or not as it ever was with or without this, a criticism that amounts to belated and yet simultaneously premature point scoring.

Noone on earth is going to be surprised by the EU reaction. No country, or any entity at all, certainly not Britain were it disadvantaged, would suffer this existentially threatening hold music for any longer that it had to. The event alone might bring the debt crisis back to its full ferocity. Whether they can actually do anything regards accelerating matters remains to be seen.

When the EU properly and tangibly trashes Britain in whatever way it can, again entirely predictably and not entirely unjustifiably, then you might have a point.