UK Votes to Leave EU

[editor]

And so it begins



*not that I care much for bankers in general, but jobs is jobs

 

[DotCommunist]

Fucking hell, for once a really historic night: out of the eu, Cameron gone, probable challenge to corbyn, probable departure of Scotland... Anyway, at least we'll be able to smoke in pubs again.

if the right of the labour party succesfully oust Corbz the three quidders and the wider party are going to be massively hacked off. Landslide win in his election and they are using this to try and fuck him off out of it?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

And so it begins



*not that I care much for bankers in general, but jobs is jobs

The up-side.

Jobs isn't jobs. These fuckers price out the rest of us in London. The city would be a better place without The City.

 

[Wilf]

if the right of the labour party succesfully oust Corbz the three quidders and the wider party are going to be massively hacked off. Landslide win in his election and they are using this to try and fuck him off out of it?

I suspect they'll do exactly that - and in doing so lose the opportunity labour has to try and set the agenda in this new world.

 

[editor]

The up-side.

Jobs isn't jobs. These fuckers price out the rest of us in London. The city would be a better place without The City.

How about all the ancillary jobs that go with a big office? You know, cleaners, canteen staff, office managers, security staff etc and all the local businesses that are dependent on the trade from office workers? Fuck them too?

 

[2hats]

Spain calls for joint control of Gibraltar...

The Spanish government has called for joint sovereignty over Gibraltar in the wake of the UK's vote to leave the EU. The British overseas territory of 30,000 voted overwhelmingly for remain, with 95.9% opting to stay in the union.

"The Spanish flag on the Rock is much closer than before," Spain's acting Foreign Minister Jose Manuel Garcia-Margallo said on Friday. In a radio interview, Mr Garcia-Margallo said: "It's a complete change of outlook that opens up new possibilities on Gibraltar not seen for a very long time. "I hope the formula of co-sovereignty - to be clear, the Spanish flag on the Rock - is much closer than before."

 

[littlebabyjesus]

How about all the ancillary jobs that go with a big office? You know, cleaners, canteen staff, office managers, security staff etc and all the local businesses that are dependent on the trade from office workers? Fuck them too?

What about all the businesses that are pushed out of London/out of business by the extortionate rent increases? We're talking a relatively small number of highly paid people who take far more to themselves than is moral and make everything that bit harder for everyone else in the process.

 

[butchersapron]

if the right of the labour party succesfully oust Corbz the three quidders and the wider party are going to be massively hacked off. Landslide win in his election and they are using this to try and fuck him off out of it?

What's to stop them voting for him again if a vote happens?

 

[cybertect]

What's to stop them voting for him again if a vote happens?

Nothing, I believe.

 

[tommers]

Nothing, I believe.

There is talk of him not being on the ballot.

 

[Orang Utan]

Does this mean there'll be a property/rent crash? Here's hoping

 

[rubbershoes]

The up-side.

Jobs isn't jobs. These fuckers price out the rest of us in London. The city would be a better place without The City.

Foreign investment in London property pushes up prices as much as city workers do

 

[Nine Bob Note]

Anyway, at least we'll be able to smoke in pubs again.

Well, at £8 a pack. No more weekend trips to Malaga with a couple of empty suitcases.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

A huge victory for the right and far right.

No-one will benefit from this. Ordinary people certainly won't. There will be massive financial uncertainty (it might come as a surprise to some of you on here that ordinary people have pensions, savings and mortgages) and the likelihood of an even more right wing government than the bunch of cunts we have now.

The NHS is more likely to be run down and health care privatised than ever, rather than benefitting from money saved by not being in the EU.

This country has very probably set a precedent and the EU is likely to break up in the long term.

I know plenty of people who voted leave and without exception they voted out for racist or xenophobic reasons.

I reckon the whole thing was swung by discourse around immigration.

I've had messages today from friends who've been verbally assaulted, told to pack their bags etc it's England for the English now. This isn't a decision that benifits non white people like me...


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[chilango]

Does this mean there'll be a property/rent crash? Here's hoping

Depends where you live?

 

[rubbershoes]

Any action on Immigration is as likely as the £350 million for the NHS, other than perhaps in charging EU migrants for the NHS (as a good practice run for charging all of us)

This is about stopping the EU interfering in the City (like the cap on Banker's bonuses) and about removing 'red tape' (potentially the Social Chapter) and environmental protections (suddenly the UK government that was trying to water down air quality standards doesn't have to bother anymore) which impose a cost on businesses.

All the stuff during the campaign was about a way of selling an exit to the 'proles'. They're going to do precisely fuck all for workers, just more divide-and-rule bullshit and scrounger rhetoric. Tories gonna Tory.

Amen to that

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Brilliant argument from Sturgeon: how could an English government that left the EU under the smokescreen of “taking control” deny a Scottish referendum undertaken without its permission?

Nicola Sturgeon announces second Scottish independence referendum plan

Yup that was a fantastic statement from her, think Scotland will be independent within 24 months.


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[cybertect]

There is talk of him not being on the ballot.

True, that would present a problem for people who wanted to vote for him. He would need to muster 35 or so MPs to get him on the ballot.

 

[cybertect]

Yup that was a fantastic statement from her, think Scotland will be independent within 24 months

Intrigued by this

“I have also spoken this morning with [London] mayor Sadiq Khan and he is clear that he shares this objective for London, so there is clear common cause between us.”

 

[rubbershoes]

Yup that was a fantastic statement from her, think Scotland will be independent within 24 months.

Scottish independence is an open goal.

Or a goal with a Scottish goalie

 

[DotCommunist]

Intrigued by this

is sadiq really suggesting London becomes a city-statelet. mental

 

[butchersapron]

There is talk of him not being on the ballot.

There isn't even a ballot for him to be on and may never be. See the corbyn thread.

 

[butchersapron]

I've had messages today from friends who've been verbally assaulted, told to pack their bags etc it's England for the English now. This isn't a decision that benifits non white people like me...


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Non white eh. Come on krtek, be consistent.

 

[The39thStep]

I've had messages today from friends who've been verbally assaulted, told to pack their bags etc it's England for the English now. This isn't a decision that benifits non white people like me...


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Wasn't there the same sort of talk when Boris became Mayor?

 

[Orang Utan]

Depends where you live?

London of course. Where else exists?

 

[comrade spurski]

You are correct - the out voters are not necessarily racist and their concerns need addressing. But they've given the racists a platform, a legitimacy.

And that's a fucking shame.

Look mate...I did not say they gave the racists a platform. People have a right to vote out ... the are sound reasons for doing so. Those responsible for racism are the racists and those who spread and create racist arguments and policies.
I just wish the result was different and hope my fears are unfounded.
I do not wish my views to be used in your war of words with other people on here cos none of that interests me

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

is sadiq really suggesting London becomes a city-statelet. mental

The day just gets weirder and weirder.

Saw this last night and thought of you, one of the best ones they've had in ages: Racist nan definitely going to bother

 

[Anju]

This is interesting and towards the end is an example of how the debate should have been handled.

Divided borough: How Greenwich voted in the the EU referendum

 

[Ax^]

come Scottish referendum ... vote remain but being irish

if this leads up to the break up of united kingdom its not all bad

 

[Wilf]

is sadiq really suggesting London becomes a city-statelet. mental

Easy, just put border posts round the congestion charging zone.