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UK Votes to Leave EU

NHS and pensions. Next few decades worth.
Most probably. Truth is that nobody yet knows how quantitative easing will eventually be resolved. Nobody who's engaged in it has yet faced up to its inevitable consequences. Long-term economic stagnation, with the wages of those at the bottom constrained the most, seems the most likely outcome until those consequences are faced up to.
 
This analysis doesn't feel right. What do you mean by "the system is contracting"? How on earth will debt denominated in a sovereign currency not get paid?
New money is created, but it does not represent additional wealth. At some point, the money needs either to be destroyed or devalued, or the extra wealth needs to come along to be represented by it.
 
Most probably. Truth is that nobody yet knows how quantitative easing will eventually be resolved. Nobody who's engaged in it has yet faced up to its inevitable consequences. Long-term economic stagnation, with the wages of those at the bottom constrained the most, seems the most likely outcome until those consequences are faced up to.
This is a global issue too though. I think Neil Woodford has it about right when he says many of the global instabilities will eclipse domestic/Brexit ones.
 
Yes. Or a formal overnight devaluation.

How does a formal devaluation occur in a floating exchange rate system? Doesn't that just happen automatically like we are seeing now with the pound falling in value? Is this necessarily a bad thing? We've seen in Greece how being stuck to an over-valued currency can cause massive unemployment.

I'm not arguing with you, by the way. Just trying to get an idea of these things beyond my own knowledge.
 
Time for Scottish independence. And Welsh. And... if the majority wants it, why not, NI/6 counties.

The naysayers who were so vocal against Scottish independence 2 years ago haven't got a fucking leg to stand on.
 
Sitting in a cafe and the vileness of the discussion by 3 blokes in here is soul destroying.
Anti immigrant, anti asylum seekers, anti Muslim and anti black. All scroungers,criminals, nicking our jobs etc. Ieat or drink here every lunch time and have been coming here for years as I live round the corner ... never been like this. Hope it's just a shit coincidence but doubt it. I know many voted out for non race reasons so do not judge out voters as racists but the campaign barely moved away from immigration. My fear about a leave vote was about how the minority of racist fucks in the country would gain confidence and this ain't making me feel any better to be honest.
 
Nearly a third here went to private school.

So what?

Seriously - what is the point? Years and years of the same voices here, sneering at the middle class, the liberals etc etc.

Not saying that there aren't those that deserve it but just imagine if someone came here and said the same thing about the working class day in day out.

How divisive some people are :(
 


What about those in favour of the UK out of the EU and the right of the Scots to self determination?

Louis MacNeice
There's an odd group of people i've noticed this last week as well - supporters of scottish independence opposed to a leave vote because it would break up the UK.
 
How does a formal devaluation occur in a listing exchange rate system? Doesn't that just happen automatically like we are seeing now with the pound falling in value? Is this necessarily a bad thing? We've seen in Greece how being stuck to an over-valued currency can cause massive unemployment.

I'm not arguing with you, by the way. Just trying to get an idea of these things beyond my own knowledge.
Well yes, and that devaluation, if it continues long-term, is itself an inflationary pressure. But there are also anti-inflationary pressures that come from a reluctance to borrow - hence the stagnation. 'formal devaluation' wasn't quite right, sorry - by that I meant actions carried out by the BoE specifically to bring about devaluation, which can take place within a listing exchange rate system.

My guess wrt the UK is that the property bubble that QE has sustained will fall out at some point, and the 'correction' will come in the shape of various people losing their homes. The UK doesn't have massive unemployment atm, mind you, suggesting that the current exchange rates are sustainable. Anyway, markets are going to be all over the place for a bit. Hard to see the bigger picture atm.
 
Sitting in a cafe and the vileness of the discussion by 3 blokes in here is soul destroying.
Anti immigrant, anti asylum seekers, anti Muslim and anti black. All scroungers,criminals, nicking our jobs etc. Ieat or drink here every lunch time and have been coming here for years as I live round the corner ... never been like this. Hope it's just a shit coincidence but doubt it. I know many voted out for non race reasons so do not judge out voters as racists but the campaign barely moved away from immigration. My fear about a leave vote was about how the minority of racist fucks in the country would gain confidence and this ain't making me feel any better to be honest.

You are correct - the out voters are not necessarily racist and their concerns need addressing. But they've given the racists a platform, a legitimacy.

And that's a fucking shame.
 
So what?

Seriously - what is the point? Years and years of the same voices here, sneering at the middle class, the liberals etc etc.

Not saying that there aren't those that deserve it but just imagine if someone came here and said the same thing about the working class day in day out.

How divisive some people are :(

Point is you asked how we know the social make-up of U75. I answered.
 
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