A hot take, certainly
UK gov to ban porn sites that don't verify users' age
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NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Kids are not property. They are members of society. And part of society includes some basic ground rules of behaviour. Consent should be a part of that.
tonysingh
Random Clever and Witty Strapline
And when those homes contain people who are either unwilling or unable to teach even the absolute basics? What then? Because a home like that is one where CSA thrives. Assuming a child growing up there isn't abused then they enter the world shockingly naive and vulnerable to violent, misogynistic pornography for starters.
These things are learned openly via growing up - how'd did you learn? They're something to be said for ignorance is bliss.
This is learned not taught.
What are the absolute basics - the thing you need me (and other people biological offspring) to know - to fit into your religion/world?
tonysingh
Random Clever and Witty Strapline
How do you expect anyone to learn anything with teaching? It's the source of the teaching that's important.
I also couldn't give a shit if you fitted into my religion or not. I'm slightly confused as to why that's pertinent but since you asked, religion has no place in sex education. As for your second jibe, i've already stated the areas I feel need the onus placed on. Bodily autonomy, consent, same sex relationships.
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NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Ignorance of consent is far from bliss! Holy fucking shit.
It can be both. The point of giving lessons is to give an opportunity to those who might not learn by themselves. Or who might be discouraged from learning by over-controlling parents.
ouirdeaux
Caring, Understanding, Non-judgemental Type
Ignorance is certainly not bliss when it comes to sex education, because there are many parents who can't or won't do it, and the consequences of ignorance can be pretty dire. The Samaritans was set up after a girl killed herself when she got her first period, because she thought she had cancer. And there are plenty of less dramatic, but still serious, examples.
tonysingh
Random Clever and Witty Strapline
Who are you addressing this to?
Assuming you need ME TO KNOW - I'm all ears/eyes.
I agree, Galilao said "You can't teach a man anything, you can only help him learn"
What you mean by source of teaching, right teacher wrong teacher. Therefore Government stooge right, parents wrong I assume.
Good, I'll be a different hut to you, I'm not Sikh - how you indoctrinate your own kids is your own business.
Periods are nothing to do with sexual intercourse - that a girlie lesson in any case - why would I want/should know?
ouirdeaux
Caring, Understanding, Non-judgemental Type
Now you're just trolling. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt before, idiot that I am.
tonysingh
Random Clever and Witty Strapline
I don't know why you assume I have the power to indoctrinate anyone. That's not an ability i ever want.
And periods are absolutely to do with sex education since it relates to puberty and changes in the female body. This way both boys and girls can demystify what can be a worrying time for them. It's more important for girls re menstruation but boys also need to be informed so they can avoid peer led (or worse) innuendo which results in often misogynistic ideas
When I was at school the periods lecture was for the girls alone - they went to a seperate room for 'it'.
Your for the sexual education of other peoples kids. That comes under indoctrination/proselytization - brainwashing "altering the perception of reality in which we exist"
Your for the sexual education of other peoples kids. That comes under indoctrination/proselytization - brainwashing "altering the perception of reality in which we exist"
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I am beginning to wonder if our new friend is posting entirely in good faith.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
So what do you think should happen if the parent neglects to teach their kids about sex? If they get sex education at school then that might be able to fill the gap, but you don't think that should happen, so what is your proposal? Just leave it to the parents? Including the abusive and/or neglectful ones?
tonysingh
Random Clever and Witty Strapline
Indoctrination and proselytising are both very different and very objectionable things as well as being nothing I've done or plan to do. To do such is anathema to a Sikh.
Education around sex should be free of factors like religious, or parental influence to name two. That provides a safe space for kids to grow into healthy young adults with sane ideas around the subject.
Sex education as provided by the state should absolutely be modern in its approach and syllabus, what I had was appalling. I'd feel genuine concern were kids/young people these days watching a 30 minute cartoon and thats it. Not providing kids with enough opportunities to grow into adults in a safe way is an egregious error.
Right after we get oil companies to take on climate change education.
ouirdeaux
Caring, Understanding, Non-judgemental Type
I began wondering earlier, and now my wonderings are over.
tonysingh
Random Clever and Witty Strapline
Nothing should happen. Cats don't teach their kittens anything. Humans work it out themselves, thats half the fun. The Human race is here through eons of the lack of sex ed. How do people breed in societies with no sex ed.
Yes, they're THEIR kids and no one elses.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
tonysingh
Random Clever and Witty Strapline
I took the bait didn't I?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Dunno why you lot do this; someone signs up and immediately starts spouting a load of old crap about what can be an emotive subject and you engage with them. You're all too kind, just fuck 'em off from the start, saves time.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Oh, I see. You're a fucking idiot. My mistake.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
It was an old fridge full of it we found, flytipped down a country lane on the edge of the village. Proper mucky stuff. Word got round and half the school was out there the next evening fighting over it.I thought everyone did?Very rare to go into the bushes near our local golf course and not find a case full of the stuff!
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