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Jo Cox still at it. He's not being 'pro-remain' enough now.

Labour MP suggests Jeremy Corbyn could face leadership challenge next month
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Jeremy Corbyn could face leadership challenge next month, Labour MP suggests
Exclusive: Pro-EU Labour figures fear that Mr Corbyn will not throw his full weight behind the Remain campaign


Labour MPs have warned Jeremy Corbyn he must make more effort to mobilise Labour supporters in order to prevent Britain voting to leave the EU in next month’s referendum.

Pro-EU Labour figures fear that Mr Corbyn will not throw his full weight behind the Remain campaign and that it could lose the referendum as a result. Some Labour MPs have even raised the prospect he could face a leadership challenge after a Brexit vote, as he would get the blame. But others insist the Labour leader is safe for a year.

In an interview with The Independent, Jo Cox, a Labour backbencher, said: “The next big challenge for Jeremy in the next few weeks is the referendum. Lots of us in the Labour Party are going to be looking for some real leadership from Jeremy. He has to lead from the front and put a convincing case.”

The MP for Batley and Spen said: “Whatever the outcome of the referendum, there will be huge implications for both the Conservative and Labour parties.” Asked if a Brexit vote could provoke a Labour leadership contest, Ms Cox replied: “I want to see those Labour voters come out and vote Remain. If they don’t, and we leave [the EU], that is a conversation for 24 June.”

She said Mr Corbyn, as a sceptic about some aspects of the EU, had a “unique voice” and must deploy it “with gusto.”

There are fears in the Remain camp that, although Mr Corbyn launched Labour’s pro-EU campaign this week, he will not follow it up with regular appearances and speeches over the next six weeks. With the opinion polls next and neck, and a majority of Conservative supporters likely to back Brexit, Remain is desperate to win Labour voters. Mr Corbyn voted to leave the EU in the 1975 referendum and there are fears that a lukewarm endorsement of membership by him now would not persuade Labour supporters to vote to stay.

One Labour frontbencher said: “If the public vote to leave the EU, Labour will get the blame.” Another said: “The finger would be pointed at Jeremy and there could be consequences.”

However, other senior Labour figures dismissed the prospect of a leadership challenge after a Brexit vote. One Shadow Cabinet member said: “Jeremy is safe for a year. We should get behind him now. If the Tories are tearing themselves apart and trying to get rid of Cameron, why on earth would we do the same? It would be madness.” Corbyn allies insist he is fully committed to Britain remaining in the EU. They will be dismayed that Labour MPs are setting yet another test for him only four days after he appealed to them for unity.

Also stuff about Corbyn speaking out more about the 'social media sexists' - doing that same attack as the right and Blairite/Progress Labour have been doing on anti-semitism as painting it being a left problem. Therefore, it being Corbyn's problem. Fuck sake.
 
Do you need someone to give you a compelling reason for anything? Have you no prior interests of your own independent of the politicians that might make your mind up?

Of course but generally want to be reasonbly Sure you're not making things worse.
Post exit the same sorts of people run things.. Post exit, how are the working classes more empowered.
 
Of course but generally want to be reasonbly Sure you're not making things worse.
Post exit the same sorts of people run things.. Post exit, how are the working classes more empowered.
I think the disorganisation of european capital can only put european labour at greater potential. It's hard to sell that against but you're going to be poorer, the bosses said so.

A question - would the w/c better off is a massively empowered CBI was broken up or if it was given a mandate to do pretty much as it liked with no comeback? Would you, or others ask, but what happens next if we break the CBI?
 
I think the disorganisation of european capital can only put european labour at greater potential. It's hard to sell that against but you're going to be poorer, the bosses said so.

A question - would the w/c better off is a massively empowered CBI was broken up or if it was given a mandate to do pretty much as it liked with no comeback? Would you, or others ask, but what happens next if we break the CBI?

Good question. I'd ask what's the power behind initiating that break up, cui bono. Is that useful to us.

So yeah in light of your point re disorganised capital, i'll think a bit more.
 
Eurovision has more democratic legitimacy
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Bozza has a meltdown and breaks Godwin's Law. But that's okay because Farage backs him to become PM.
Boris Johnson has compared the EU's aims to Hitler's, saying both involved the intention to unify Europe under a single "authority".

The pro-Brexit Tory MP said both the Nazi leader and Napoleon had failed at unification and the EU was "an attempt to do this by different methods".

Labour MP Yvette Cooper, from the Remain campaign, accused the ex-London Mayor of playing "nasty, nasty games".

Meanwhile, UKIP leader Nigel Farage has backed Mr Johnson to be the next PM
EU Referendum: Boris Johnson compares EU's aims to Hitler's - BBC News
 
Saw my first stall (from either side) yesterday. "Leave" in the centre of Okehampton. Couldn't stop for a free pen cos I was dashing up to the moor, but I did overhear a heated group slagging of Cameron fwiw.

Also saw a house in Bristol that's gone full UKIP, flags, billboards, posters the works.

I'm also absolutely raking in the virtual dosh from YouGov and IPSOS as a "don't know" who's "certain to vote" :).
 
Inevitably, it's all boiled down to the War. Plucky Johnson and Farage fighting on the beaches to stop the Nazi superstate taking over. First we stopped Napoleon taking over Europe, then we stopped Hitler taking over Europe, now we're going to stop, er, Europe taking over Europe.
Note the painting of Europe as one united bloc. With the best interests of it's population as the motivating force behind it of course.
 
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