cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Round 2 - Mel Stride is out.
Jenrick - 33
Badenoch - 28
Cleverely - 21
Tugendhat - 21
Stride - 16
Jenrick - 33
Badenoch - 28
Cleverely - 21
Tugendhat - 21
Stride - 16
Tory leadership contest 2024
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belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
my shit is shocked. Tom Tit or Jimmy Dimly next then.
Boo Radley75
Well-Known Member
Turd in a hat still holding out. Trying to shake his more centre right image and court the ERG lot by declaring he also wants to pull out of the ECHR
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
FWIW, my 2pworth....I'd imagine that most of Stride's 16 goes to Tugendhat, seeing Dimly out next time. Then the Dimly support becomes King-maker with split right and 1 "left". If I were a betting man I'd put the money on Tom Tit and Generic put before the membership. Then. of course, the headbangers will choose Generic.
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Silas Loom
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Why do you think that Stride’s support goes to Tugendhat rather than Cleverly? Genuine question, I have no idea how the vermin that remain break down into factions, but when it comes to chances against Jenrick (or by some weird chance Badenoch), Cleverly is at least better known.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
All hunch; no evidence. But thinking about the factional (5 families) animosity, I'd wager that those "one-nation" enough to back Stride might not be persuaded that James "all things to all men" Cleverly is their man. As I say, hunch; just as well I'm very anti-betting?
Silas Loom
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Fair enough. We’ll know before too long and the wonderful thing is that it matters not in the slightest.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
this all sounds very plausible, except I think the Tit might beat Generic. He just an old army boy, after all, and the electorate like that, despite being more of a softy. Big Bad Bob's rightwingness is a bit of a joke anyway, almost performative. Bad Enoch would win, if she got through.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Nah, Jenrick would beat Tugenhat by a huge margin.
There's*some* evidence that there's been an outflow of Tory members to Reform since the election, but a) I don't think it's many, and b) those who are left are just as right wing as those who have gone.
Jenrick might well be obviously purely performative in his swivel-eyedness, but we've been here before: the last time the Tories had the choice between a pro-european, socially liberal centrist pretending to be an anti-european right-winger, but who's corruption was entirely genuine, Vs a pro-european, socially liberal a former spook and army officer, from a distinguished family of public servants, who is married to a foreigner, Johnson beat Stewart quite convincingly.
(Obviously. Stewart didn't get to the membership vote, but there was never any chance they would have voted for him over Johnson)
Nothing I've seen, read, or heard from anyone suggests that the Tory membership is less right wing, mad, and filled with a virulent hatred of everyone who isn't them that they were in 2019.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Agreed; Generic will play the Hague role.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Tugenhat is second to Badenoch in the last members polling I can find. Jenrick was fourth (it was when Patel was still in )
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Oh, if they had the choice of Badenough or Jenrick they'd go for Badenough - I just think that in the end, if it's a choice between Tugenhat and any old charlatan telling them what they want to hear, despite being transparently dishonest, they'll go for the charlatan.
(Not that I think Tugenhat is much better btw, his rightward drift/pelt over the last 5 years has been very disappointing...)
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
And those are their good qualities
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
It’ll come down to what TT and JC offer Mel and his backers…
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Ah, Mel Stride. A man who sounds like a bookie owned by the Krays in a low budget ITV2 gangster series, or perhaps one of Larry Parnes' "stable" of 50s crooners, melts away into a richly deserved obscurity.
Next stop: shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster. If he's lucky.
Next stop: shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster. If he's lucky.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
My bet is he gets chair in return for his votes and endorsement…
Silas Loom
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Aditya Chakrabortty segments the candidates and the wider Tory party into morons (free market Trussites) and bastards (culture warriors), suggesting that Jenrick and Badenoch are on opposite sides. It’s not a bad way of looking at them, although it’s cheating a bit to say that only Farage represents both morons and bastards, or that Tugendhat is a culture warrior for being pro-defence and anti-Russia.
www.theguardian.com
Two factions are battling for the Tory leadership. How to choose? Let me help | Aditya Chakrabortty
Rabid Trussonomics or naked nativism? With the race down to four runners, here’s my guide to a party reeling in two directions, says Guardian columnist Aditya Chakrabortty
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
Was about to link that article Silas Loom . Quite a good take down. The Tories knowing that their best choice leads a rival party is a good observation.
Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
He's this years Miicheal Ancram?
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
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