The Urban 6 Nations 2018 Thread

[bendeus]

Is that not because they often only commit one player to the breakdown?

That's one reason. I'd say the pace and overall reading of the situation by players arriving at the breakdown to support or disrupt is also key. You only need to look at how swiftly and effectively a Tipuric (for example) arrives and intervenes when required. The margins are so tight that the loss of even a second can be critical

 

[Mr Retro]

I've just read it. As they say in Wales. I'm fucking 'tamping fuming raging'

Not worth your energy. You’ll be a Welsh fan long afrer he’s been booted out to fuck up some poor provincial side.

 

[Reiabuzz]

Why hasn't Joe Schmidt gotten a bigger job yet then? Not a massive media 'personality' but seems a very good manager and a decent chap.

ABs next?

 

[flypanam]

Nah, Hurricanes or Chiefs will get him before AB's do. I expect.

Anyway Brian Moore's podcast is not too bad
Brian Moore's Rugby Podcast

 

[Reiabuzz]

Who's the next cab in the rank for NZ then - surely not gatland?

 

[flypanam]

I suspect either Scott Robinson (current Crusaders head coach) or Ian Foster (AB's Assistant coach)

 

[sleaterkinney]

Why hasn't Joe Schmidt gotten a bigger job yet then? Not a massive media 'personality' but seems a very good manager and a decent chap.

ABs next?

Bigger job?.

 

[Reiabuzz]

Bigger job?.

Well, NZ or England I guess. He could probably actually do wonders with the aussies given their untapped talent.

 

[flypanam]

Bigger job?.

It's true though isn't it. Not exactly the best paying role (I think EJ has that gig) nor the most demanding in terms of results (AB/Welsh jobs.) In comparison the Ireland job is pretty easy, especially when Rugby isn't even the most popular sport in the country.

 

[Grandma Death]

Why hasn't Joe Schmidt gotten a bigger job yet then? Not a massive media 'personality' but seems a very good manager and a decent chap.

ABs next?

I've got a lot of time for Joe. I think he's measured. A brilliant tactician. And most importantly not a cunt.

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[sleaterkinney]

It's true though isn't it. Not exactly the best paying role (I think EJ has that gig) nor the most demanding in terms of results (AB/Welsh jobs.) In comparison the Ireland job is pretty easy, especially when Rugby isn't even the most popular sport in the country.

Perhaps he likes being out of that kind of hot-house though.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Well, NZ or England I guess. He could probably actually do wonders with the aussies given their untapped talent.

So has Ireland though, our provinces were always up there in the HC, now the national team is performing like that also.

 

[flypanam]

Perhaps he likes being out of that kind of hot-house though.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think we should ever let him go. I'd be happy for him to cap his kid if it kept him in Ireland.

 

[fucthest8]

<tries very hard to ignore all the Eddie Jones/assistant ref nightmare cockery>

SO <brightly> England have announced their squad and it's probably about as good as I can hope for, but I still don't think it will be good enough to win (edit to add) against what is a pretty stable Irish team who are in a frame of mind for winning.

I'm hopeful about the backrow, but who bloody knows any more.

15 Anthony Watson, 14 Jonny May, 13 Jonathan Joseph, 12 Ben Te’o, 11 Elliot Daly, 10 Owen Farrell, 9 Richard Wigglesworth
1 Mako Vunipola, 2 Dylan Hartley, 3 Kyle Sinckler, 4 Maro Itoje, 5 George Kruis, 6 Chris Robshaw, 7 James Haskell, 8 Sam Simmonds

16 Jamie George, 17 Joe Marler, 18 Dan Cole, 19 Joe Launchbury, 20 Don Armand, 21 Danny Care, 22 George Ford, 23 Mike Brown

Interesting addition of Armand on the bench

 

[bendeus]

<tries very hard to ignore all the Eddie Jones/assistant ref nightmare cockery>

SO <brightly> England have announced their squad and it's probably about as good as I can hope for, but I still don't think it will be good enough to win (edit to add) against what is a pretty stable Irish team who are in a frame of mind for winning.

I'm hopeful about the backrow, but who bloody knows any more.

15 Anthony Watson, 14 Jonny May, 13 Jonathan Joseph, 12 Ben Te’o, 11 Elliot Daly, 10 Owen Farrell, 9 Richard Wigglesworth
1 Mako Vunipola, 2 Dylan Hartley, 3 Kyle Sinckler, 4 Maro Itoje, 5 George Kruis, 6 Chris Robshaw, 7 James Haskell, 8 Sam Simmonds

16 Jamie George, 17 Joe Marler, 18 Dan Cole, 19 Joe Launchbury, 20 Don Armand, 21 Danny Care, 22 George Ford, 23 Mike Brown

Interesting addition of Armand on the bench

A lot of bosh in that squad. Obviously trying to cut off the Irish carrying at source and win the gainline.

Promises to be a brutal battle.

**btw, I never accused you of being a dick waving thread tourist. Far from it. You have stepped unwarily into my 'bellend tagline generator' trap, however

 

[fucthest8]

A lot of bosh in that squad. Obviously trying to cut off the Irish carrying at source and win the gainline.

Promises to be a brutal battle.

Well, I hope so.

**btw, I never accused you of being a dick waving thread tourist. Far from it. You have stepped unwarily into my 'bellend tagline generator' trap, however

Oh bendy, do you really think I'm that foolish? I'm as Meta as they come baby.

 

[bendeus]

Oh bendy, do you really think I'm that foolish? I'm as Meta as they come baby.

 

[fucthest8]

I'd been waiting for you to notice

 

[bendeus]

I'd been waiting for you to notice

What are your thoughts on Armand, btw? I read him described as a 7.5 in much the same way that Robshaw is a 6.5 somewhere, i.e. occupying a position twixt openside and 8. Is this about right?

You lot really need to learn to start rounding up and down

 

[Mr Retro]

i think it’s the best side England have picked all year. Ford dropped and Haskell starting make England much stronger. I hope they don’t outmuscle us at the breakdown which this England pack are capable of.

I want Henderson (delighted he starts) and O’Mahoney to start like a couple of fucking madmen to get Ireland on the front foot, good hard running from Healy and Stander with the backs spreading the English fatso’s tither and yon to get them blowing.

 

[Threshers_Flail]

Not seeing the point in Biggar starting Saturday, obviously finishing second on Saturday means more to gats than planning for the RWC 2019. It's going to be a slugfest and I'm not sure we've got enough power to see the French off.

 

[Threshers_Flail]

The England side looks far better balanced now, should be a cracking game, really can't wait.

 

[Grandma Death]

Pretty happy with that. Apart from Biggar. Glad to see josh back. He's worked really hard.

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[Threshers_Flail]

Glad to see josh back. He's worked really hard.

Shingler at 6 and Tips at 7 for me, Navidi solid bench cover.

Agree about Biggar, Gatland reverts to type.

 

[Grandma Death]

Shingler at 6 and Tips at 7 for me, Navidi solid bench cover.

Agree about Biggar, Gatland reverts to type.

I feel sorry for shingler. He's had an awesome 6N

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[Ax^]

Nigel Owens to replace van der Westhuizen

 

[bendeus]

Nigel Owens to replace van der Westhuizen

He'll make sure his nice little earner from those Limerick speaking tours is protected, don't you worry

 

[bendeus]

Pretty happy with that. Apart from Biggar. Glad to see josh back. He's worked really hard.

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I really wish we could have the best bits of all three of our tens rolled into one. We'd then have someone like Dan Carter. The OH conundrum is so tricky: each one brings significant weaknesses as well as clear strengths. Not one has really put their hand up this 6N though, tbh, and in the absence of that it's unsurprising that WG has gone for the tried and tested

 

[Grandma Death]

I really wish we could have the best bits of all three of our tens rolled into one. We'd then have someone like Dan Carter. The OH conundrum is so tricky: each one brings significant weaknesses as well as clear strengths. Not one has really put their hand up this 6N though, tbh, and in the absence of that it's unsurprising that WG has gone for the tried and tested

If you had to choose though?

 

[fucthest8]

What are your thoughts on Armand, btw? I read him described as a 7.5 in much the same way that Robshaw is a 6.5 somewhere, i.e. occupying a position twixt openside and 8. Is this about right?

You lot really need to learn to start rounding up and down

Well he's open side and lock, so what does that make him, a 6??? I genuinely think he's comfortable with either.

He's direct, quick and he can score tries. Good head on him generally, but a worrying number of turnovers conceded in his stats for Exeter this year. Lacks international experience, obviously. Still, as an impact player, I think he could really count.