The Trial of Lucy Letby

[Flavour]

shall we assume the video reflects your own no-doubt really held views?

 

[phildwyer]

shall we assume the video reflects your own no-doubt really held views?

I'm not sure how I feel about this one tbh. Hitchens makes a good point about the statistical evidence.

 

[danny la rouge]

Oh fuck me, he’s on this thread too?

I’ve no intention of watching whatever that is. Can you just give a précis so you can get banned from this thread too? Cheers.

 

[Flavour]

Ah, Hitchens, quoting an article from alt-right hero Toby Young's site "The Daily Sceptic". Great. I think you need to try a bit harder in your edgelordery.

 

[phildwyer]

Oh fuck me, he’s on this thread too?

I’ve no intention of watching whatever that is. Can you just give a précis so you can get banned from this thread too? Cheers.

Basically, Hitchens compares the Letby case to a previous one in which similar statistical evidence was dismissed on appeal.

 

[danny la rouge]

Basically, Hitchens compares the Letby case to a previous one in which similar statistical evidence was dismissed on appeal.

That’ll do nicely, thanks.

 

[JimW]

Highlights the time-wasting and diversionary nature of "question everything," "crtical thinking"; let's cast doubt on a court verdict arrived at by about as rigorous process as you'll get in a case where if anything vested interests would have preferred a cover-up/ it all to go away. Righto.

 

[phildwyer]

Highlights the time-wasting and diversionary nature of "question everything," "crtical thinking"; let's cast doubt on a court verdict arrived at by about as rigorous process as you'll get in a case where if anything vested interests would have preferred a cover-up/ it all to go away. Righto.

They said the same about Amanda Knox.

 

[Pickman's model]

so you can get banned from this thread too? Cheers.

Why stop there?

 

[cesare]

They said the same about Amanda Knox.

Quite.

 

[phildwyer]

Quite.

I called it at the time. This case has a similar, witch-hunty atmosphere about it.

 

[cesare]

I called it at the time. This case has a similar, witch-hunty atmosphere about it.

I thought you'd been banned! Was that just on the RB thread?

Anyway, you think she was innocent, I don't. I don't think Letby's innocent either.

 

[phildwyer]

I thought you'd been banned!

No, just busy.

 

[cesare]

No, just busy.

Fair play

 

[danny la rouge]

No, just busy.

I hope you continue to be very busy.

 

[phildwyer]

I hope you continue to be very busy.

Long vacation coming up as it happens.

 

[phildwyer]

I thought you'd been banned! Was that just on the RB thread?

Anyway, you think she was innocent, I don't. I don't think Letby's innocent either.

Oh yes, just on the RB thread. Prob shouldn't have chosen that one to reappear tbh. You're still not convinced of Knox's innocence? That's pretty hardcore.

 

[cesare]

Oh yes, just on the RB thread. Prob shouldn't have chosen that one to reappear tbh. You're still not convinced of Knox's innocence? That's pretty hardcore.

No, not convinced. There are many that disagree with me though, accept that. So you think that Letby is innocent?

 

[phildwyer]

No, not convinced. There are many that disagree with me though, accept that. So you think that Letby is innocent?

I'm not sure. I do detect a strain of misogyny in the public reaction to her case, as I did with Knox.

 

[ouirdeaux]

I daresay that any woman who commits a crime will attract misogynistic comments. This does not make them innocent of the crime.

 

[Idris2002]

It's good to see you back phildwyer - but I don't think "Lucy Letby is innocent OK" is the hill you want to die on.

 

[phildwyer]

It's good to see you back phildwyer - but I don't think "Lucy Letby is innocent OK" is the hill you want to die on.

No. But it's such a weird case. The motivation is so obscure. Not unprecedented I suppose.

 

[ouirdeaux]

Although, with reference to Letby, I don't think I've seen much misogyny. Maybe I've missed it; the case is too depressing to follow in detail, let alone read what dickheads say about it. Anything a woman does is likely to attract misogyny. A woman brushes you off, and she's a prickteasing lesbian, you can't trust them. A woman leaves an abusive marriage, and she's out to screw over her ex for money, that's what they all do. A woman calls a man out for sexual assault, and she's after attention, don't you know they're all really whores anyway?

I can't say I've seen any comments along the lines of 'Of course Lucy Letby became a nurse and killed premature babies, don't they all do that?'

 

[phildwyer]

Although, with reference to Letby, I don't think I've seen much misogyny. Maybe I've missed it; the case is too depressing to follow in detail, let alone read what dickheads say about it. Anything a woman does is likely to attract misogyny. A woman brushes you off, and she's a prickteasing lesbian, you can't trust them. A woman leaves an abusive marriage, and she's out to screw over her ex for money, that's what they all do. A woman calls a man out for sexual assault, and she's out to make money out of it, don't you know they're all really whores?

I can't say I've seen any comments along the lines of 'Of course Lucy Letby became a nurse and killed premature babies, don't they all?'

it was more the unabashed sadism directed against her once she'd been convicted. Yes they do the same to men, but not in the same sexualized way.

 

[krtek a houby]

And how does the brave defence of her sit with your rampant misogyny on the Russell Brand thread?

 

[andysays]

It's good to see you back phildwyer - but I don't think "Lucy Letby is innocent OK" is the hill you want to die on.

He's already planted his flag at the peak of the "Russell Brand is innocent" and the "Julian Assange is innocent" hills, so maybe he just wants to bag the whole conspiraloon range while he's at it.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

He's already planted his flag at the peak of the "Russell Brand is innocent" and the "Julian Assange is innocent" hills, so maybe he just wants to bag the whole conspiraloon range while he's at it.

And Trump now too. A real white knight for rapists, accused rapists and child murderers.

 

[two sheds]

And Putin, don't forget Putin. The invasion of Ukraine with its accompanying murder, rape, kidnapping of children and destruction of whole cities was an "escalation" and Biden's fault. Not an invasion or even a "Special Military Operation" a fucking "escalation"

 

[emanymton]

It's good to see you back phildwyer - but I don't think "Lucy Letby is innocent OK" is the hill you want to die on.

It really isn't given his output since he came back.

 

[andysays]

And Trump now too. A real white knight for rapists, accused rapists and child murderers.

Saville by lunchtime?